Can you disable the overpressure on APHE rounds? This is getting absolutely stupid


You tell me with a straight face that a Tiger 1 should be able to one tap a TORTOISE.

I’ve also noticed that Internal Modules are also way weaker now, SOMEHOW a earlier hit to my Cupola in a different match set my engine on fire(and broke it), Broke my Transmission, and MY BREACH, and left me with 2 basically dead crew.

APHE has already been over performing for years, did it NEED a buff?

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I noticed that too, shot the Cupola on a Tiger, IS, or whatever and it’s transmission and engine die, like what?

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Yeah, slower heavily armored vehicles are almost useless these days. They put a weak spot on them (cupola usually) that EVERYONE knows about and boom! moving pillbox is killed (or at least crippled) in one shot.

It’s the same thing when any 75mm Sherman shell hits the cupola of Tiger H1 - cripples it. And these are areas you can’t “protect”. They are always visible when your tank is engaging.

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There was going to be a change to APHE that would’ve fixed this, but NOOO, the community wants their fantasy APHE nukes.

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Hell it doesn’t even matter with the Tortoise, Because a Tiger 1 can just blow through its normal armor with no issue, Because they model its armor wrong, and 152mm of armor somehow only has 140mm of protection. hell at Close range a PZIV can penetrate the Tortoise.

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It would not have affected overpressure whatsoever.
The only thing that would be affected is the NW/NE fragmentation distribution, which doesnt prevent cupola sniping, as was apparent through both tests conducted on DEV (Hit Analysis & Game-Mode)

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Testing this more, it seems like APHE Fragments are ignoring internal plating and such, allowing it to damage things it absolutely shouldn’t.

It seems to be the same bug that caused Churchills to die When being shot in the air intakes, despite multiple layers of steel plating between the engine and crew compartments, just amped up to 11.

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I rather have them disable players being able to pinpoint pixel size weakspots on tanks. This is problem no1 in game

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If they would stop draggin their ass on implementing Volumetric armor, that would go away fast. its been 3 years, all tanks in the game should have it by now.

But well, Gaijin can’t take more than 5 minutes per update to fix anything old, all they worry about is implementing the newest overpowered crap that no one asked for.

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World of Tanks veterans

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SERIOUSLY this needs to stop!

Why? This is one of the best settings at this BR range, and also it’s a secret weapon for low BR tanks against those heavy armor monsters

Ah yes… the Sherman Firefly… Such a Notoriously Heavy Monster of a tank…

APHE is over performing to hell and back, it needs nerfed bad.

Everyone except for low int like Spookston and such agree.

(Never gonna forgive spookston for overreacting to hell about the APHE changes and getting his Whiny fanbase to vote no on that)

Tanks shouldn’t be balanced around Garbage mechanics making armor useless because they can snipe a tiny weakspot and one tap your crew, or barely clip your tank and kill you.

That is WOT’s Department, not Warthunders.

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Hell this APHE overpressure crap is getting so bad that i have gotten Killed in my Black prince Before by Tigers hitting my Mantlet, and non penning, But the Overpressure wave somehow penetrating my hull roof.

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I voted for the cone APHE, but the community didn’t want it.

And I am a Veteran of World of Tanks.

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No the COMMUNITY wanted it, actual players of the game, it wasn’t until CCs like Spookston and the bunch started fear tactics about the change, While also not understanding what the change was, and that it wasn’t even going to change THAT much.

Thats when the tone changed, The votes went from 65% possitive, to 40% possitive over night after the Fearmongering YTs started complaining.

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Clearly not. It was voted against.

And yes, it would have massively fucked with balance.

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What Balance? The Balance that makes it so Tigers can one shot anything they want without contest, the Balance that makes it so the only useful tanks bellow 8.0 are APHE throwers, while everyone else is playing second fiddle unless you absolutely know what you are doing?

Balance that makes it where a Shell type noted time and time again in Historical reports as being basically useless over standard Solid Shot or APCR, perform better than any other shell type in the game? Balance that makes it where some of the Heaviest armored tanks ever built can be shredded by some SPAA or something with a APHE round that has absolute minute amount of filler, in shells designed to shoot down PLANES and not punch through any real armor.

Most TIGERS were issued with APCR rounds, Especially Tiger 2s, Because APHE was absolutely useless on those guns due to the Velocity and its Tendency to shatter, same for Panthers, and PZIVs. The Americans also barely used APHE, Most tanks were issued with Solid shot loads, with a very small amount of APHE, and then the rest HE, until the HVAP rounds came around and the APHE rounds were replaced with HVAP.

There is NO historical Precedent for APHE to be performing like it does, There isn’t even a LOGICAL reason, its just a crutch for bad players.

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And im Someone who knows what im doing. 20 kills, in two lives in my Firefly. But think about a player that doesn’t? Think about the hell of Playing a Cromwell or Churchill, against PZIVs and such that do 10X the damage they do.

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The Tiger is kinda meh, right now. I prefer the M4A3.

No, they weren’t. German APCR shells were exceedingly rare due to the lack of rare medals required to manufacture them. It was rare for an entire section of tanks to even have more than a handful overall.

Of course, but you’re also wrong about history in the other direction as well. APCR basically didn’t exist for the Germans.

I’m not going to break down how many historical inaccuracies or misrepresentations you just made, because it’s a lot, but the majority of shells fired in that war were HE shells. Sure, AP shells were more common for the Allies, but that’s because APHE fuzes were unreliable and often didn’t do much more than AP anyway. The Germans had APHE and HE 99% of the time. Nothing else.

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