Can we stop throwing bones to air abusers in ground realistic?

Wasnt ground rb added like right after open beta. I wish we had thevold sim mm.

They do the same now if used properly

Idk how you would get a representative sampleset outside of Gaijin themselves doing a poll in game.

Relying on self selecting community polls is for the most part unproductive. It can give an idea that a given subset of the audience feels a certain way.

They dont though. Old hvars would one shot a tiger if you hit it anywhere now they dont

Don’t forget about sampling bias. His viewers are likely to share his views.

The poll definitely shows that there is interest in a TO mode, but if there were, let’s say, 80% in favor in the poll it would be very stupid to assume that this can be translated into “80% of the game’s population”.

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Now You just need to hit it properly

Correct. Which is why i mentioned they were much stronger back then. The new damage is much better than the old system.

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39k votes is not a small number for votes

I could agree that the poll is not representative with number of votes like 1-5k, but 39k?

Still we need Gaijin poll to know the real situation

Still from a very likely biased audience.

Well actually it was…for a few weeks in closed beta.

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As said, 39k votes can’t be ignored with argument „biased”

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Yes and? You still have to deal with a biased sample with nonprobability sampling

You’re just flailing in the air with that, honestly. This is the most comprehensive and valid community poll we have access to. Not to be condescending , but his content is not watched by competitive players. It’s the salt of the earth watching these videos. People can explain and improve when they get killed by a tank. “Oh I should have angled, or I pushed out and exposed this part of my tank” etc, but you can’t fight a damn plane. It’s not hard to understand that people just don’t like being bombed, end of story. Nobody looks at a CAS pilot as a skillful playstyle, they see it as taking advantage of someone who can’t fight back. Even my own videos get comments about it.

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No, they can’t be ignored, which is why I said that the poll shows that there is interest in the mode.

However due to the audience likely being biased the results of the poll can’t be applied to the entire audience of the game 1:1.

The least that should happen is proper in game poll

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True. We know they have the means for that as they have already done such polls, so they could easily do this to settle this controversy.

Or add the little night-battle-like checkbox for TO, too.

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That would be great as it would allow to gather data

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Yeah that could probably be productive for Gaijin to conduct.

When the best data we have is from a self selecting sample set causing biased sample with nonprobability sampling. I dont think that is a go-ahead to treat it like its particularly valid.

Especially when trying to apply it outside of what the poll is specifically asking (which is in this case asking their audience if they think Warthunder needs another mode, like tank only)

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Me? Flailing in the Air? Excuse me, but weren’t you the guy who accused air players of being afraid to allow ground players to spawn SPAA on their 100x100 km maps?
Even in Top Tier, a Pantsir, the longest range SAM ingame can only cover less than 2% of the airspace…

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Pretty decent idea. If enough in queue check TO, they get TO.

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