Can we stop throwing bones to air abusers in ground realistic?

but no matter how much i bug we wont be getting the rooikat ZA HMV cause it never passed mockup ;-;

I love the Type 81, although I still keep the Type 93 in my lineup as an extra for its ability to fire on the move

even though it also would use irst

i would grind the japan tree just for the Type 93

Because YouTube polls are not a place where there is any requirement to be a subscriber (much less a WT player), the poll is completely vulnerable to compromising by people without standing to take part in it.

Unless you can prove that everyone who ever voted in the poll was a WT player, the data can be reasonably assumed to be ‘problematic’ and skepticism expressed over it as a result.

I haven’t misrepresented anything by pointing out your experience in RB is limited or archaic.

Attacking myself and others for stating such neutral facts (especially as I noted the bit in a nonjudgmental manner) is petty and only hurts you…you’re just lashing out with these attacks.

You were asked about your own experiences, though you couldn’t really substantiate what you’d said for yourself.

ULQ is a separate entity and though familiar with WT for N64, his experiences are irrelevant in a talk between us. You should be able to back up your own claims if you are going to say you have the experience.

Yeah…not what was meant by the markers situation–which differs between AB and RB wholly. Nobody has markers in RB except others of the same team, which brings a big difference in situational awareness for all.

You’re only considering that from one aspect (your own POV) rather than the overall effects.

I have referred to public records and facts; that isn’t lying.

False on both counts: I said that inexperience (or a lack of current experience) limited your insights on matters in RB (to only theoretical knowledge); and ULQ, though having many battles, also has unique conditions set that limit the usefulness and compatibility of insights from his experience (playing on ULQ settings despite high FPS is not the norm).

There’s never really been any substantive proof of that…most WT players just come in to play WT with other WT players.

Earning is earning. If anyone wants to obstruct that player, they can just prevent such earnings.

I advocate for balance, not aircraft…being fair to aircraft is simply a part of balance advocacy.

As your comment here showcases, “CASvocate” is just an attempt to deride regular WT players…it’s an attack on WT players for being WT players and so it’s wrong.

Nope, I wasn’t–I’m above that and don’t stoop to that. Don’t try “both sides-ism” here.

By using or having a teammate use vehicles that complement the team’s needs.

The sky is the aerial flank…if the team leaves it undefended, it’s no different than leaving a side of the map undefended.

Nope–just a statement addressing those who advocate for a TO mode.

There are various sources: OSS historical data, @PointyPuffin’s many recorded battles, my own experiences…@JuicyKuuuuki has posted similar results in recounting his battles too.

There really isn’t any doubt in that rough percentage because it has held steady for years.

Suicide bombers are not impressive, nor really worth talking about. Any people killed by a suicide bomber can take solace in the fact that the engagement was conceded to them by the SP costs.

A particularly aware and quick tanker can evade air attacks too–it just depends on how quickly they react and if they make the right moves. One’d have to see the situation to see details.

Given that SPAAs have protection in their spawn when their time begins, there’s not much excuse for getting cut down in spawn.

They were readying up an implementation of TO in 2019 before the people pressing for TO spurned their idea and said they’d ‘hold out’ to wait for a better deal. We’ve never heard about TO again from Gaijin AFAIK.

Reading that history at face value, it sounds more like Gaijin simply got fed up at being spurned by a “niche” group (their words) making big demands and simply gave up on the idea.

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crap, got hooked on with playing Germany thanks to the whirbelwind…lol guess it wouldn’t hurt to grind another nation.
need some CAS recommendations around 5.7, about to use the Nashorn. Don’t mind using lower br CAS at 5.7.

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i dont get it.

if you think your teamates actualy care about other teamates your poorly mistaken, they dont help each other they only help themselves, aside from the few who help repair, they cool

ok and? every vehicle gets spawn protection, the people who spawn camp wait for the spawn protection to end then bomb you, if your spaa and there is multiple enemy cas spawncamping you and your the only spaa your lucky if you can take out a few before your destroyed, how is that fair?

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The Wirbelwind shreds planes like butter. Ostwind I and II need some skill but when once you got it … oh boy ;-)

The Wirbelwind remains viable into 6.X or even 7.X.

As for aircraft, at 5.7 you could select an Fw 190 F/D, a Do 335 or even a Do 217…all can be made to work for CAS, though I prefer either the former or Bf 109s for anti-air work.

In order:

Deriding WT players for being WT players is uncool.

WT is a team game and teamwork is key to success.

Spawn protection is an advantage for GFs…aircraft never even have it.

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Bout to go piss of certain players with this decal 😂😂 But yea, I like that none stop firing on Ostwind but the single and dual barrel will make it tough, shouldn’t take long to get used to it for sure.

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I always liked the Hs-129 B-3. It is slow, it is not maneuverable, it bleeds energy really badly, but it is decently armored and it carries a Panther cannon at 2.0.

Just don’t fire it while you are too low…the recoil pushes the nose down a bit.

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duck is cool

I asked for a proof.

The thing is, it was made my a CC who makes videos for both audiences. Therefore, you can not say, that it was biased, like Dollar’s poll. Or at least not that biased (and you are yet to prove that it is).
Yet what is the result? Essentially the same as with Dollar.

Yet, by knowing that i played them essentially a decade ago, and you knowing that it is not my main mode, you choose to misrepresent it.

I had the decency not to bring up your sim stats, so you could do it as well.

Also, what you do is not an argument. You can whine all day about me not having experience in RB, it still does not disprove what i say. If you had anything to disprove my claim, you would have used it.
The fact, that you had to go on a misrepresenting route just clearly tells, that you have nothing to disprove what i say.
What is going to be the next? Will you attack my grammar or spelling?

And i did.

And, when using a fighter in AB, you have no markers. Not even for teammates, while every single enemy has a marker on you, as well as a lead indicator.
This strengthens ground against fighters in AB, yet fighters are just as capable there as in RB.

You tried to go with me not having experience, and you still whine about it.

Again, if i am wrong, use something meaningful to disprove my claims.

Evidence?

And again, what skill does then that player needs to just bomb a tank, when the CAS player would likely be annihilated in a tank vs tank engagement?

But it can not be balanced.

As your comments showcase, “TO advocate” is just an attempt to deride regular WT players…it’s an attack on WT players for being WT players and so it’s wrong.
See? it goes both ways.

Yet you did. It is all here, and yet you lie.

For example?
SPAA that can be killed from outside it’s engagemnet range?
Fighters, that forces you to grind another tech tree?

Do Air players have to worry about such a mechanic?

I asked for sources. Please present them.

What is this TO idea?

Long range guided dildos take around that time to reach. Also, it is just 20s, so it is not really hard to wait for it to run out.
It also runs out very fast if you drive just a few meters.

That is just blatantly wrong my dude.

What is wrong about it?
The fact that an aircraft that can barely keep itself airborne is carrying that weapon, or the morals behind it? The last time I played it, it was still at 3.3. I was a bit surprised at the 2.0 BR now, but looking at its abysmal flight properties, it is not surprising.

The thing i quoted!

youre meant to provide evidence to what you said

guided dildos hehehehe

Yes and I asked,which part of it.

Are you saying that the aircraft does not carry a Panther gun?
Or are you saying that it is morally wrong to have such a gun flying around at 2.0?

evidence? that warthunder players play warthunder? you got screws loose? why else would people play warthunder, other than to play warthunder

god these maps these COD maps i guess i actually have to start trying its become see first shoot first kill first