Can we have a plane based Fuel, Convergence and Bomb Fuse settings already?

[markimash]

I agree that his post is a mess and sort of rage post-like. I am just trying to give a “rational” side to his argument. I can make a suggestion post when I have a bit more time. I also need to test out the new fuel sliders first.

[Morvran]

Yeah, I just put up with knots for tanks because CBA to change it constantly

[Laserdestroy]

@BleedingUranium

I say it isn’t valid because it doesn’t make sense. You’re saying you’d rather change it every time (having to remember them all too) instead of changing it… once.

It doesn’t make sense TO YOU. I like changing my bomb fuze and convergence globally because when I decide I want them to be different, I want them different for everything. I don’t enjoy forgetting to make changes on the off chance they became different. If I decide I want my covergence at 500m instead of 800m, I want the option to change it for all my planes at once. I don’t want to have to change all of my planes if I decide I want my convergence to change. Being able to make global changes is an important feature TO ME. Thus, I don’t want to lose that option.

@BleedingUranium

Are you for some reason thinking all the current settings would be reset to some other value, instead of simply starting off where they currently are? Because that would be a bizarre assumption. And also not an argument against the new system, because that’s as simple as “the new system would be fine so long as they don’t reset current settings in the process”.

I don’t know how Gaijin would implement it. If they implement it in a way the settings are saved like gunsights are, then that would suck. I don’t know if Gaijin would do a reset on everyones settings because of it. I don’t know what the backend of the system would look like or what itbwould require. The reason I assume that it could cause a reset is because copying and transfering my account over to PC resulted in a full reset of everything even though I played my Xbox account on PC. Seems like a justifyable fear after that, but you can disagree with that too.

[Laserdestroy]

I wish that the sights would change with your measurement units. I’d like to use knots and yards because of naval and air, but ground really throws a wrench in that because the sights are in meters. At least that is my understanding of them since changes between yards/meters doesn’t seem to make any worthwhile change to them. I just realised I can probably check if they change with a laser rangefinder in an arcade test drive.

[Laserdestroy]

@markimash

I agree that his post is a mess and sort of rage post-like. I am just trying to give a “rational” side to his argument. I can make a suggestion post when I have a bit more time. I also need to test out the new fuel sliders first.

Contrary to what may be believed by some, I understand the other side of the coin here. It would be helpful, especially for those who like their nose/chin mounted guns to not have convergence, but wing mounted guns to have convergence at XXX meters. I said I would see a complete overhaul of the system with a removal of the ability to change settings globally as a net negative and I stand by that. I see the loss of ability to make global changes as a more important feature than other people in the thread.

[Morvran]

I use custom sights so rarely an issue, but yeah, that would be a good change too

[Laserdestroy]

@BleedingUranium

I say it isn’t valid because it doesn’t make sense.

Before you read, I am not saying this to start an argument over it. I want to get it off my chest because this isn’t the first time it has happened, and it has worn thin. This quote is mearly the subject, and I hold no animosity toward you BleedingUranium. I just want to het this out, especially with the OP accusing me of being a shit person and trying to manipulate people. I will acknowledge that I made comments making light of this post because it is more of a rant than a coherent suggestion for change. I’m sure anyone who reads the whole post will see that once people didn’t insult or accuse me of things, I have been respectful and debated opinions without attacking anyone’s viewpoints or person.

Everything I have said is MY OPINION, and I recognize that my opinion doesn’t have to be accepted by other players or Gaijin. I am aware that disagreements are a regular thing here, and Gaijin makes the final decisions about what happens in this game/forum. Telling people their point is invalid because you don’t think it makes sense isn’t right and destroys the ability to have discussions. People form opinions based on their personal experiences, and they may know something you don’t, or have experienced things differently than you. Everyones opinion is valid, but not every opinion needs to be taken seriously. It may not make sense to you, but that doesn’t somehow invalidate their opinion. We are all players of this game, and deserve to have a voice, regardless of how we use that voice.

This doesn’t apply to facts, facts rule over all. If you have facts to invalidate an opinion, that is 100 percent different. False facts are not valid and shouldn’t be taken seriously.

[Laserdestroy]

Which sights do you use? I had a pack for all vehicles that was from Minedeployer on live.warthunder but it was giving me problems with the client loading so I I didn’t see it as worth the effort to hold on to.

[Morvran]

Uh… Considering that if I play GRB its either Chally 1 or Chally 2 or Chally 3. I just have historical sights for all 3

[AdamSmithSonian]

Your opinion is invalid because despite me saying that I envision an optional plane-specific loadout(that you can opt-out and use current global loadout/convergence/vertical etc), you continued to argue as if I wanted to force everyone to plane specific loadouts that you have to do for each plane they have.

In addition to all your qualities before, I am adding bad faith argument and strawmanning.

[BleedingUranium]

Did you seriously just necro a resolved discussion for no other reason than to throw insults around?

[Laserdestroy]

@AdamSmithSonian

I am sick of adjusting these settings in all of my planes because Gaijin can not develop a plane-specific settings for these values.

If I am on PE-8, I want my bomb to go off immediately on contact, if I am on strike plane, better to have 1.5/2 seconds fuse.

Some guns are really fast and 500+ meter convergence makes sense, some guns are really slow and converge should be set up at 400 meter maximum, for all the cases. Then, why is this easy to implement QoL change not implemented in 2024? Why are these settings global for all planes?

I’m sorry, can you show me where you said that there would be an opt out? You didn’t.

@Laserdestroy

@AdamSmithSonian

What I want is out of battle configuration option where you can save different fuse/convergence setting IF you want.

You never once said IF you want to. You put forth the post in a way that it seemed like the change would NOT be optional. If it was an optional thing, I wouldn’t care because it would mean nothing to me. Don’t try to manipulate people by trying to change how you put forth the post.

You’re a liar. Plain and simple. You aren’t even a good liar because the thread shows exactly how the conversation went. Quotes and all, so if you edit it after the fact everyone can tell. You’re the one trying to manipulate people by falsely claiming you said something that you didn’t.

@AdamSmithSonian

Thanks for the gaslighting, but no. This is not being dramatic, this is an expected QoL in 2024, from a game with 10+ years of lifetime, with multiple plane classes and guns and bombs etc. With my system, you need to only set these settings once and forget. With current settings, you need to remember to change values every time. Not everyone waits in hangar for a long session of the same plane. I switch planes quickly to break boredom. But these global settings are almost always useless and time consuming to click multiple times, with the mental cost of remembering them before each plane switch.

@AdamSmithSonian

Let’s just agree to disagree. Any custom settings should override global settings. If a player changes convergence of me 262 with potato throwers 300 meters, it should stay like that for all sessions of that plane since it is clearly wanted by user. It doesn’t interfere with global settings being default.

Clearly, we have different ideas of how a 2024 game should be. When you dismiss something as “I don’t need it in my current gameplay, so it is unnecessary”, your point is invalid. Have a nice day.

@AdamSmithSonian

With all your sophistry, you can’t even spell “their” properly. Anyways, done with you. Thanks for your service.

Didn’t say it in these first posts.

@AdamSmithSonian

I wouldn’t be insincere gaslighting ahole like him.

Read what he is constantly writing to a simple configuration change that doesn’t affect in anyway how he sets his things globally. Clearly you buy his nice/sane guy act but fail to read between the lines.

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You’re being so dramatic about this

Is it that hard to click a few times

Mind you I need to click every time I change to a different type of plane and bomb/payload/gun config. And we are people, I may play 5 different planes in a single hour. MY config request doesn’t interfere with current system at all.

I got my answer, though indirectly, that it is indeed that difficult for you to click a few times before spawning. Maybe if you ask Gaijin nicely, they’ll add the penetration/drop indicator to RB so you don’t have to use so much mental energy remembering the weakspots on all the vehicles or penetration values of your own ammunition.

Entirely irrelevant BS to grandstand. What I want is out of battle configuration option where you can save different fuse/convergence setting IF you want. Clown implies I am bad at flying planes or shooting down the enemies. A good person doesn’t write things like this. I don’t claim to be a good one, but he reeks of a manipulative ahole.

What is next? Will he say “I am sorry you felt this way” type of BS to garner likes and sympathy against evil me?

Then you call me an ahole and claim you said it from the start. You’re a liar.

[AdamSmithSonian]

You are a pathological liar that honestly makes me sad to interact with. Here I am quoting myself;

@AdamSmithSonian

Let’s just agree to disagree. Any custom settings should override global settings. If a player changes convergence of me 262 with potato throwers 300 meters, it should stay like that for all sessions of that plane since it is clearly wanted by user. It doesn’t interfere with global settings being default.

I am clearly mentioning the global settings(do you know what global mean?) and in my last sentence, clarifying for low IQ people like you that "it doesn’t interfere with global settings being default.

[Laserdestroy]

Show me exactly where you said that it would be able to be opted out of. Mentioning global settings means nothing. Don’t try to make it SEEM like you said something you didn’t say.

[AdamSmithSonian]

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[Laserdestroy]

Still didn’t show where you said it could be opted out of. Still hurling insults because you have no foot to stand on.

Unless they changed the definition of “global settings” to mean the same as “you can opt out of this” then you didn’t say it.

[AdamSmithSonian]

Sophistry in action again. You can opt out custom settings by not using them. Default is not selecting custom settings. Not every insult is unwarranted, in this case, it is clearly description of your abilities and inabilities.

Global settings being default = you can go on as usual with global settings
Custom = custom for whatever plane you fit.

You opt in to custom settings. Don’t use if you don’t want to opt in. Do we have to start from the alphabet with you?

[Laserdestroy]

Still can’t show me where you said you can opt out of the system. You made a claim you said you could opt out, prove that you said it. Beating around the bush about mentioning global settings is not stating that the system can be opted out of.

[AdamSmithSonian]

Necessity of opting out is your delusion, sorry for you. I am offering an optional system. You don’t need to opt out of optional system if you don’t take part in it. DAmn, kids these days need harder logic lectures.

[Laserdestroy]

@AdamSmithSonian

I am offering an optional system.

Show me where you said it was optional.