Heck, the idea of the US getting the Skink was because it was on a Sherman.
They were all proved wrong when what it really was got out. A Sherman variant unique to Canada called the Grizzly and that fact only the UK showed interest in the Skink project.
The US had no involvement in the program past the original blueprints of the tank. And using parts from X nation is the weakest argument there is.
I wouldn’t mind it being a subtree I just do not see Gaijin giving every vehicle to the UK. I just don’t. Since it isn’t how they do things and if there not gonna change how they been doing since i joined or perhaps when you joined then low chances they will change it any time soon.
I don’t make the rules I’m simply stating from observation where they put vehicles. Some I don’t agree with but its whatever at this point since it isn’t going to be changed.
These modifications were performed by Germany.
In 2009 Canada commissioned Krauss-Maffei Wegmann of Germany to refurbish and upgrade 20 ex-
Dutch Leopard 2A4 tanks to the Leopard 2A4M CAN standard. All of these tanks were completed in
2010. Between 2010 and 2011 five Leopard 2A4M tanks were deployed in Afghanistan.
The Canadian Army merely asked KMW to come up with upgrades and KMW did them. Its not at all special to Canada and its not at all derivative to Britain or Canada. The toxicity of rationalizing “domestic” variants of the leopard 2 is what created the problem with the strv 122. The 2a7+ variant that was sent to Qatar was called 2a7Qatar. Why? I don’t know really; it could honestly just be because they wanna differentiate in case there is a difference between subvariants of variants or simply that its a news headline.
I don’t see the justification of distorting nation tech trees in such a way. Honestly I could tolerate them adding it to Britain because Germany still has so many amazing options both present and past, but it gets to the point where their whole original concept of nation tech trees becomes pointless. We already have so many armor problems, and its like asking Gaijn to add something monetizable as something “Canadian.”
Indian planes would be out of place but the Arjun would not feel out of place
Think of it as leoa4 turret with kontact 5 on the turret but with a 120mm rifled barrel
Indian aircraft will not be out of place either, with upgraded Super SU30MKI from Israel. If you want to NATO system can also choose the Rafale M fighter or “BIG Mirage 2000” Tejas fighter
by the time the Rafale is in the game we won’t need it
Beautiful picture
I can’t imagine why Gaijin filled the gaps with foreign vehicles when there are plenty of British versions for everything. I think it is already about including nations rather than gameplay. Look at all that 80s South African drivel they implemented, painfully out of era and canon and pretty damn useless as well. Skink is OK but getting to be useless at 5BR and certainly pointless at 6.
Considering the fact you would go from Aim9L/M and Skyflash/AMRAAM to R-73s/R77. It would be extremely jarring.
the tank would gor from 120mm APFSDS and HESh to the sane thing so the other tanks seem fine
The only part of the Ram that shares parts with the Lee is the lower hull and automotive components. Everything else in Canadian in design, which was done with the help of British tank experts. The gun is British. The doctrines were British, it’s a cruiser tank not a medium tank. Then it was intended to be used not by just the Canadians but British-Commonwealth forces.
You might as well claim all the Australian cruiser tanks are American too. Being inspired by the M3 Lee. Might as well say all the British cruisers tanks and Soviet BT tanks are American thanks to Walter Christie.
What Gaijin should do:
Still doesn’t change my point. Unless you can find me a reason why both vehicles are not on the British Tree.
M5A1 is fine. As it’s an imported vehicle without any modifications.
Ram II, well, you can agree to disagree. As I already stated my piece. It’s a unique Commonwealth vehicle with no US involvement and only shares some components with the M3 Medium.
That’s more than enough for it to have the US involved.
“Javelin was developed and produced for the U.S. Army and Marine Corps by the Javelin Joint Venture between Lockheed Martin in Orlando, Florida and Raytheon in Tucson, Arizona.”
Source: The Lockheed website.
The “Javelin” you are thinking of is a different design but the same name.
They are talking about the Javelian Anti-air missile, which is British. It’s not the anti-tank one. As the Wolverine is an SPAA.
Why do they have to be confusing
Yes this is exactly the British Javelin LML, which is a manual guided SAM, as opposed to the FGM-148.