I guess we’ll have to see how the re-modelling of the turret works etc. But upgrading pen values should be on the list of possible adjustments for the Chally 2.
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Then why players knew it will be broken, before anyone even played it?
You keep explaining everything they do wrong with basically “they have no idea what they are doing”.
5 months isn’t exactly fast if you ask me.
Lmao… Source? As my experience is the opposite.
Your word is worth literally nothing, so you just stating your “facts” isn’t an argument.
Bullshit.
Fast, fully stabilized 57mm autocannon with lrf fighting unstabilized and slow ww2 tanks, and you are honestly claiming no one could see how broken it will be?
Me and my whole group knew that and i seriously doubt we were the only ones.
Atleast reddit also knew.
You already provided the source.
You brought up PT-76-57, which was a first in its class vehicle.
EBR was also a first in its class vehicle and was under-BR’d because there was no reference point to base its BR off of.
Hindsight bias. I doubt you knew, especially since there was nothing to compare it to.
It’s a damn shame. Especially in the world of failed prototypes. There’s documentation to detail what happened until something isn’t adopted and from there, it’s like the thing never existed. Anything as old as the 40’s seems obviously lost forever, but even more recent times like the 80’s and 90’s, history seems to vanish.
Oh dude for an event, that would be sick. E-25 rats everywhere, E-75’s and E-100’s. Maybe a JPE-100 with the forward casemate.
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292 is on live
lets see how many nato nerds find out its bad
There is literally no point in discussing anything with you.
Clearly you always think that you are the smartest person in the room, and what others say doesn’t matter to you.
Edit: Just realized that " PT-76-57, which was a first in its class vehicle" is just straight up lie.
We had Bagel for years already. This had better APHE, stab and lrf at 7.3…
If you honestly didn’t think it was OP before you even tried it, tells me all i need to know about you.
he is smartest
Why would it be bad?
It’s lower BR T80U with amazing gun and slower reload.
Lmfao
its not bad but its not op like redditors make it outto be either
Hello you are saying that players chose this type of marathons instead of other types(ok maybe). You have increased cost of tank medal from 40k to 45k. Before this change to get tradable coupon we used to grind 400k of mp(mission points) but now its 750k so we have 345k increase of cost of upgrade for coupon(9*45 = 405 => 750-405= 345). So you are trying to make us grind 8.625 (345/40 = 8.625) times more then before for upgrade?
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Sure lol.
Test drive link here:
https://wiki.warthunder.com/special:GameObjectView?object_id=ussr_object_292
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Begleit had thermals and a TOW launcher while being faster. That’s a different class.
Others are the only people that make this line of words:
I don’t think this and never have nor will ever think that.
Pgz whatever has thermals, dofferent guns and missiles and still its the same class with shilka.
Your logic makes zero sense.
What? Also nicely cut my quote lmfao.
Sure you don’t. You just happen to act like it every single day.
If this thing can be 10.0
I believe US should get this at 10.0 in return
Non-stabilized M1A2 with L/55
Fight fire with fire, they say
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LRF, thermals, and armor still.
Just sharing the lack of gun handling and smoke grenades with Object 292.
As we see with AMX-30B2, non-stab only reduced its BR by 0.7 all else equal.
I still believe 292 won’t remain at 10.0 for very long
It can punch through the turret of M1A1HC at range
HC is 11.3 mind you
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My guesstimate of 292 is 10.7, before I post my next statement.
M60 AMBT has 3BM60 performance at 10.0, with thermals, and gun laying.
I posted a list of high penning things below BRs. China’s 8.7 TD was one of them, over 520mm of pen at 8.7 with a laser range finder and stabilizer.
The problem of the AMBT is the armor
You get lots of nice things at 10.0 like good shell and 2nd (3rd?) gen thermals
But AMBT does not have any sort of ERA (unless you count the slat armor but even that is negligible).
Basically, the moment someone even sneezes at AMBT, it’s dead.
292, while lacking thermals, still enjoys somewhat good composite armor with absolutely insane kinetic shell and maybe equally so HE shell.
Another thing is the profile. AMBT is (comically) tall vehicle while 292 has relatively low profile
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