I think we’ve seen a few people here telling people to “stop whining, it’s just 5k more”. (Technically, if we want to do apples/oranges the last single-vehicle (TOG) was 10k every two days less than this one.) And in my experience they’re often the same people who said the last time (when it went from 25 to 35), “it’s just 10k more.”
The counter-argument is, “well, why can’t it be 5k less?” Because it will undercut someone’s coupon sale price post-event, that guy will make a couple GJN less? Why should I care about that? F___ that guy :)
As if the previous task events were somewhat better.
Score stars were objective upgrade because they no longer forces people to do certain things and do things not compatible with their playstyle in order to gain star.
To compensate for making the rewards more accesible, selling them was made harder, which makes no difference to people that want the vehicle for themselves.
This new format is just further evolution of the star system.
Is 40k doable? Yes.
Could it be lower? Absolutely.
Is it second coming of antichrist like some people portray it? Not likely.
Again, why should event centered around grinding a unique vehicle for free be balanced around players that want to sell it?
They can still buy the stars required for personal use for gold during the event.
Again why should the event be balanced around such people?
If the game is in a state of constant grind then maybe the issue isnt gaijin but “you the player” making it a constant grind… like yes FOMO exists but you also have the ability to ignore these events, its called self control. yes this doesnt apply to people who are addicted but then that argument also applies to any and all games of any nature so its not really a point to drive home.
Considering this change to obtaining a coupon is a net negative to gaijin in terms of market sales and considering we just got rid of crafting events which had a much higher form of grinding due to capped materials/crates on top of needing 750k score for the last few crafting events to get maximum rewards. if you think this change is manipulative then I dont know what to say.
You are still able to obtain the Tank in question under the same requirements as previous events, its only the coupon that is requiring twice as much but like I pointed out with the 750k score, its not on a stage lock out so you can naturally earn this at any point in large chunks.
You got 3 vehicles that ended up being worthless on the market, which is precisely WHY gaijin has made this change, they wanted to limit to coupon on the market so its value goes up (hopefully) so it rewards the players who grind out the 750k score, instead bots and lower tier players could very easily do the 10 stars needed for the coupon on a single vehicle and it massively devalued the vehicle and in some cases ruined lobbies after the event was over.
If the price was lower then said events would serve ZERO purpose, they might as well at that point not bother having a coupon portion which makes the events LESS lucrative to some players thus events become worthless. its clear you havent played ANY game with any form of exclusive events because this is basically the norm… “limited items or limited rarity of items to entice the player to do said event” this isnt new but I dont see you complaining about other games of similar nature in events… but yet again its pitchforks at the ready for gaijin :D
Thanks for confirming something, why should the person who grinds said event suffer due to the value of said item being very low for the investment… you practically contradicted your above statement with this because thats what happens when you “try” to please both sides and while I agree the market exists for ppl who refuse to grind, they also shouldnt expect a low price on said item.
Every item has a price and that price is determined by the market trend at the time, hence previous events imo were bad, they made exlcusive vehicles to enclusive to a point they might as well be TT vehicles. thats the balance gaijin are going for here and imo hit it pretty well with this new event change
So, I’ll try to explain my problem with this event:
It is not worker friendly. Who works, he can’t do this event. Furthermore he can’t even dream about the coupon upgrade for the Market.
Let see:
We collect 45000 points on every second day. That’s: 9 * 45000 =405000 points.
If I want to know the rest for the market coupon, that’s: 750000-405000 = 345000 points
Every day I have to collect 345000/19 = 18157,894 ~ 18158
On the second days that’s 45000+18158 = 63158 points
On the single days that’s only 18158 points
In time on the second days with 2000 points ingame activity:
63158/2000= 31,579 ~ 32 Battes
1 Battle 15 minutes ---- > 32 * 15= 480 minutes, that’s 480/60 =8 hours!!!
In time on the single days with 2000 points ingame activity:
18518/2000= 9,079~ 10 Battles
1 Battle 15 minutes ----- > 10*15= 150 minutes that’s 150/60 = 2,5 hours
If I do the coupon task on day, and the coupon upgrade task next day:
On weekdays I arrive home at 5 pm. And I don’t have the time for 8 or 6 or 5 hours gameplay. I only have 3 or 4 hours for gameplay. Maybe I can play at weekend but that’s not enough.
Furthermore, the 2000 points activity is an ideal number, but not every battle is ideal, I can’t collecct 2000 activity ponts in every battle, so the time can be longer.
Please think the event conditions again, because workers have a huge disadvantage getting the gifts.
Thank you!
Edit:
I forgot to mention, I play with Rank III vehicles.
750000 Score Points is Just Too Much toooooo Much, that means I must Play every day to Get 40000 Score Points in Tank Battles, That takes for me 10 -11 hrs of Game play every day. Wow Wuw Wowwwwww i hate this idea xd
They were absolutely awful. This is somehow worse.
There should have been no “compensation” though, because the events were too hard to begin with.
But it did make the event harder for people who wanted to sell them, people who wanted to buy them and people who couldn’t participate. Why should their experience be worse when it doesn’t even make yours better to make theirs worse? Because making the rewards harder to sell isn’t related to the other modifications to the system.
It should absolutely be lower.
People are still allowed to complain about it.
Why should it be balanced against players that want to sell it? Because making the vehicle easier to sell does not require changing the event or making it harder for people who want the vehicle to play it. Again, we used to receive these as tradable coupons as a default. Your argument only works if “balancing the event around people who want to sell it” makes the event worse for those who don’t, which it does not.
Read what I said above.
At this point I am seriously considering you are just either a troll, or maliciously ignoring what I said for the sake of making up a strawman.
I already explained to you what I said, multiple times. If you still don’t get that those two are separate instances and not comparable, go read my comments again. I’m not explaining it again.
Again, whether or not you can ignore them, if you choose to partake in them, if you want all the rewards, you now need to participate in a nonstop grind. Personally, my problem with it is more so that the game will now always have people grinding, which will make my experience worse by virtue of having to deal with them constantly. Because the truth is, even though I will not grind, most will.
It may seem a negative at first glance, but it does actually benefit them in several ways. Making the coupon harder to sell makes it more likely that people who would have normally just waited will actually play the event, increasing the number of active players. Making the coupons rarer will also cause them to go up in price, requiring people to buy more coins to afford them. This also makes the items seem more desirable and exclusive than they actually are. We saw how they reacted to the first battle pass.
And why is the vehicle being low value a bad thing? The vehicles being high value doesn’t benefit normal players, only those who grind the vehicles to sell them and those who like having their egos inflated.
How? People get to get free vehicles by playing while others can get it later by buying them from those who got them but didn’t want them. How is any of this bad?
I have played plenty of games like that, that’s why I think they are bad. I have experienced this system enough to know that the alternative is better. Also, a design concept being popular doesn’t mean it’s good, it means it’s successful, and it can be successful for some very bad reasons.
What are you talking about? We never met before, how can you know what I do or do not do? I do absolutely complain about events on other games, I have been doing it for years. I don’t do that here because this forum is for WT, so I’m going to complain about WT.
Because they deserve it. As do any other developers who do similar shenanigans.
The developers are the ones who set both the investment and the reward, so if the reward isn’t worth the investment, maybe it should require less investment to be earned. How have I contradicted myself? Please explain it.
Why should they expect a high price? And the market doesn’t just exist for people who refuse to grind , it also exists for people who can not grind, or those who didn’t have the chance to grind.
How? They are limited event vehicles. TT vehicles can be obtained at any time. Event vehicles can only be obtained in limited time events or in the market, which requires someone putting in real money. This comparison did not work last time and still does not work now.
Measured todays star using spreadsheet. It took 1h24min of playtime to get 22.5k daily required. Some 1h50min if i include literal poop break and wait times etc.
This is much more appealing number to me in situation when i want both ground and air reward, as i now have to play hour and a half daily for some 32 days ( 8 stars per vehicle * 2 days per star ) as opposed to 3 hours a day for some 16 days.
I am working man with family. I can play hour and half daily. I cant play three hours daily.
Simple as.
Yes the previous variant was hard, and score stars events made them much more easier. I can understand why tradable coupon was made harder to accquire, but again thats absolutely and entirely irrelevant if you grind the vehicle for personal use and as such you dont need to grind extra stars.
I still stand by notion that event should be balanced around earning the vehicle for personal use.
People grinding only to sell/buy should be considered secondarily, if at all.
Hell, make the coupon entirely untradable.
Coupons being tradable is the sole reasons you cant accquire some event vehicles at all or only through extremely chance-based systems like loot crates, because now you cant make rerun of those vehicles or have some other way to access them.
Making any future event vehicle untradable would be first step on fixing the damage marketplace did.
Noo you cant use what i said against me, thats not fair 😭😭😭
Grow up. I know damn well what you said and what was the context.