C1 Ariete AMV PT2

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The story of the C1 Ariete began during the late stages of the cold war, with a program born out of the need of the Italian army to modernize the fleet of tanks they had during that time period, which were at the time the Leopard and M60 MBT’s. Those tanks would be considered obsolete, considering the fact that many countries around the world who adopted such designs had either put them out of service or replaced them for something more modern. To make the new Italian MBT, Italy put Iveco and OTO Melara in charge. Iveco dealt with the hull, transmission, and engine, while OTO Melara took care of the turret, cannon, and the installation of optical sights. After many changes, and a couple of wooden mock-ups, the C1 Ariete (P), would first be shown to the public, at a presentation inside of La Spezia in 1987. Development kept on continuing towards the year of 1990, which allowed both Iveco and OTO Melara to refine the C1 Ariete’s design. Deliveries were scheduled to first take place in 1993, however due to some setbacks (likely funding) it wouldn’t be until 1995 that the first C1 Ariete production deliveries actually took place. At first an order of 300 tanks would be made, but due to the Cold War coming to an end, it was reduced to only 200 units, which would all finally be delivered on 7th August 2002. The tank would feature a set of improvements from previous designs, for example the first C1 Ariete production models had access to the TURMS 3rd generation LTFCS made by Officine Galileo, which gave the capability to the Ariete to fire on the move, both during the day and at night. However later down the line, the last 50 Arietes would receive an upgrade of their sights, which resulted in many improvements, such as allowing the C1 Ariete commanders to have access to thermal imaging. In terms of armaments, the C1 Ariete (P) and C1 Ariete Production had access to a 120 mm smoothbore gun, made by OTO Melara, with similarities to the German made L44. The cannon would be suited to fire the majority of NATO standard munitions. Another improvement included better protection compared to the previous vehicles, it would be one of the more vital aspects of the Ariete. The tank would be deliviered up until the early 2000’s where the Ariete would begin to be the only official tank in service, while the Leopards and M60’s would be fully phased out and put in storage. Since then however the Ariete has had quite the bumpy ride when it came down to upgrading the machine, the Italian army was not against upgrading it however there was a common issue that would plauge the development, costs. The first proposed upgrade for the C1 Ariete would be what is known as the ‘‘C2 Ariete’’. After the tank had finished to be deliviered, many nations at the time already had better vehicles in service, for example Germany would already have the Leopard 2a5. The C2 Ariete would feature a lot of improvements, which included new updated armor, an autoloader, new engine and also new updated FCS. However this never ended up happening and as such the C2 Ariete would remain only a proposal on paper. Fast forward a couple years and you’ll see another potential upgrade for the C1 Ariete, the C1 Ariete Hitfact mk2, this was likely not even considered by the Italian army but it would still feature a set of advancements that technically speaking would make it still a better machine than the production vehicles, such as the new cannon and optics. In terms of to the PT2 improvements it involved the complete replacement of the electro-hydraulic interlocking system present on the previous generation of tanks, it has been instead replaced with a new fully electric interlocking system built on the basis of the experience gained with the Centauro II armoured vehicle. This will not only just increase performance, ensuring greater acceleration in rotation, but above all this will increase the level of safety for the crew, who will no longer have to operate near elements of pressurized oil. A major improvement will also be in regard to the commander’s and gunners optical sights. As mentioned OTO Melara is using things already used on the Centauro II, in this case the commander will utilise the ATTILA-D third generation multispectral optronic system whilst the gunners will instead the LOTHAR modular and compact sight, also in use with the VBM Freccia IFV. These will both give the C1 Ariete the modernisation it truly needed to keep up with the rest of the main NATO MBTs. The PT2 is also equipped with a Leonardo RALM 02/V2 laser warning system, and will install new smoke launchers from Germany called Rheinmetall Rosy. It will also recieve a new ballistic computer more in line with current operational needs, this will be the same one present on the Centauro II. With this new addition it would also allow the C1 Ariete to fire modern programmable munitions. In regards to communication systems, the AMV program will allow for the installation of the Harrys AN / PRC-152 satellite system which give the crew the ability to communicate with friendly units pretty much everywhere, something that the VHF SINCGARS isn’t able to do. Interestingly the PT2 also has the new tracks installed on the PT1 prototype. When it comes to armor the AMV program will allow the C1 Ariete to utilise both the PSO and WAR kit together, although an older variant of the armoyr was already previously tested on a regular C1 Ariete, the results weren’t satisfactory due to the strain it would put on the engine and transmission. But with these improvements all AMV prototypes have access to the new WAR+PSO stock. One of the other ways its better protected is thanks to the installation of the Anti-IED/Mine kit. With all these changes not only will they improve overall logistics, but they will end up making the Ariete much more in line with other NATO tanks. Interestingly enough the PT2 also recieved everything else that the PT1 did, this includes an increase in power from 1250 to 1500 horsepower, this was not obtained with the installation of a new engine, but instead with the application of an upgrade kit on the current engines that the C1 Ariete utilize, which were completely disassembled and rebuilt with the constitution of numerous new elements, most of which derive from the V8 of the B2 Centauro II. The crankcase is also the same, but the displacement has been increased from 26 to 30 liters, by changing cylinders, pistons and crankshaft, increasing the stroke of the cylinders. In order to better receive and manage the greater power offered by the improved engine, called V12AMV for now, changes would also be made on the automatic gearbox produced under license from the German ZF, this provided the necessary calculations for the changes necessary to receive the greatest torque and its distribution. There has also been improvements to the breaking system, the adoption of a new track (the DST 570 P0, the current Arietes use the DST 840 E0) which is 20% wider than the previous tracks, it allows the tank to have a smaller footprint and makes it much easier for it to overcome soft soils. Suspensions and shock absorbers have not been replaced, but only overhauled. There are also rumors that the final AMV iteration will be getting a new cannon taken from the Centauro II, the Italian army are looking for ways to further upgrade the tank, so for example they’ve also been studying the implemintation of some hard kill APS systems and the introduction of the hitrole RWS.

Armament and eqiupment
x1 120mm cannon (Able to fire NATO standard munitions)
x3 7.62 machine guns
x1 WAR ADD ON ARMOR KIT
x1 PSO ADD ON ARMOR KIT
x1 WAR+PSO ADD ON ARMOR KIT
HORUS Drone UAV
Specifications

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Why it should be in game
The AMV PT2 should be in game because similarly to the situation with the PT1, Italy needs all the top tier MBT’s it can possibily get. If given a new round the rest of the improvements would make the PT2 a very easy addition and make the overall top tier for Italy more competetive.

Sources

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Panorama Difesa Novembre 2020
RID Marzo 2022
LOTHAR (Land Optronic Thermal Aiming Resource Gunner Sight)
Attila-D
https://www.rid.it/shownews/4711
https://www.rid.it/shownews/4708
Ariete - War Thunder Wiki
ARIETE MBT
https://www.iveco-otomelara.com/docs/Ariete-MBT.pdf
Ariete (carro armato) - Wikipedia
https://www.army-technology.com/projects/ariete/
Ariete Main Battle Tank (Italy)
Italian army starts trials of upgraded C1 Ariete AMV MBT Main Battle Tank | weapons defence industry military technology UK | analysis focus army defence military industry army
The first of three C1 Ariete 'AMV' upgrade started the trials. - Italian Defence Technologies

Photos + info on amv

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Seems only fitting! +1

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Yes +1

Please give Ariete!!! Tank.
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A natural developement of the Ariete line +1

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+1

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Ariete with Gen 3 thermals, combined armor kits, and roof mounted 50 cal? Yes please
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who knows maybe gaijin will actually model it correctly if added

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I hope for a good tank for 12.0. +1

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+1 we want it , it must be added

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If italy can get the PT2, C2 Ariete, and Centauro II. Its place in top teir may not be nearly as bad

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Damn she’s thiccc

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will italy will get the 2a7HU, 2A8, and possibly in the far away future KF51 Panther and MGCS, so its place in top tier will be garanted, well it will be another germany but oh well

I hope we get the fixed hull with this version of the tank, stupid that the C1 weighs as much as the Leo 2a4, but has significantly less armor somehow

The Leo has nearly 2 tons more armor then is modeled for the Ariete
Yet gaijin firmly believes the tank only has air in between its armor plates

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Absolutely yes! A real improvement over the existing Arietes and with the introduction of era VIII MBTs Italy need this.

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I’m in favour of adding this vehicle, only if they increase armour to all Ariete, we all know Ariete has composite armour it was even specified by the developer, although he didn’t say the thickness because it’s a military secret through calculations on the weight of the tank we can deduce that it is very similar to a Challenger 2.

The community is tired of seeing a tank that weighs 60 tons of air, this in my opinion is above all a huge joke on the part of the developers, it weighs more than a Leopard 2A4 but has less armour something doesn’t add up in my opinion.

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The base Ariete should have just a little less armor then the Leopard 2A4
Thus the 1 ton less weight, if everything I found is right, about 70% of that ton is extra armor, the rest being a heavier tank because of the layout of the ammo storage

But how it’s currently modeled, it looks like the Ariete is missing 2.5 tons of armor, not .75 vs the 2A4

But of course, western composite is just rubber after all, that’s why it’s so light 😂🤷🏻‍♂️

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autoloaded ariete with even more improvements is desperately needed +1

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It doesn’t have autoloader.

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Ah misread the “paper” part, mb

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