But it’s isn’t Australian. It’s an export American. Like the m1a1 aim.
Its not Australian?
Despite being in Australian Service? In Australia?
Well in that case, no AV-8B+ for the US then, the Harrier is a British Aircraft.
AV-8A and AV-8C need to be moved to the British TT as they are British export aircraft, and thus not american.
B-57 is based upon the British Canberra, so does that make it British?
If ALL export vehicles go to the nation that built them. Then Hunter F58 needs to be moved to UK as well. But nope it didnt go there. it went to… Germany
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I meant designed in Australia. The other US made vehicle in Australian service is in the US tech tree. Anyways, the harrier was used by the USA since it was a brand new design, and enough upgrades and differences between the British and American harrier to justify it. Idk why tf there is an AV-8B+ in Italy but no USA though. Why can’t 1 decent American jet design stay in the American tree. I don’t like copy paste, and there’s no need for an f111 in the British tree
Ok the hunter f58 is kinda dumb, I agree with you on that
If you dont like C&P maybe the US shouldnt export so much. Deal with, MANY nations will use and will continue to use US vehicles.
Germany, Sweden and Britain will likely get F-18s at some point.
Japan will likely get another F-15, so will probably Israel.
China will probably get at least 1 more F-16, probably a load of F-16s actually
Italy will get another F-16 probably, maybe even the Hungarian one.
many nations will continue to get C&Ps of US vehicles in service to other countries. that is what happens when you export everything and anything.
Britain nearly purchased F-14s, F-117s, F-111s and F-22s. and did buy F-35s. US vehicles will continue to appear everyone. You need to share, do you really want 2 identical aircraft in a single TT
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Because you had 8 aircraft in 2023. Including several of the most OP aircraft for both A2A and A2G. you didnt need it. Italy meanwhile had 2 aircraft in 2023. One of which being the Av-8B+ and the F-16 still has no upgrades at all. meaning they are underperforming hard at top tier currently
Germany Sweden and Britain should not get f-18 because Sweden still has later gripen versions and Germany and GB have the euro fighter typhoon
Japan already has the best f15, I hope Israel doesn’t get another because it’s pure copy paste. China should not because they will have later j-11 and other fighters coming up
Sweden has Finalnd as a Sub-TT and FInland operate the F-18. With only 3 models of the Gripen remaining (1 coming in March) They dont have a lot left for top tier. F-18 is 100% expecting to pad their tree and give them some variety.
Britain and Germany, yes, we hope sooner rather than later.
If its a LOT later. Then what we have wont last. Germany especially with only the F4F-ICE lasting them until Typhoon. If Typhoon keeps getting delayed (and after the hate from the Gripen for several nations, including the US) I think it could be delayed significantly. At which point both nations will need something else, especially if they decide to leave AMRAAM off the Gripen C for Britain. F-18 from the Swiss for Germany and CF-18 from Canada for Britain would be an ideal candidate as a stop-gap.
CF-18 in perticular for Britain, as Britain already has several Canadian vehicles in our tree like the ADATS, and some like the LAV would be ideal as a top tier IFV. Combine with a Canadian Leopard and you could create a solid Canadian top tier line up
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Fair points. I just hope the US actually gets the best version of its own fighter in the upcoming updates as now all potential new US fighters are in service or very recently out of service
My I say this before you try to say the CF-18 should go to USA. The early version (and they one that is thought to come) is a C&P craft bar visual changes.
If typhoon isn’t delayed I’d love to see it come with the f-18 for America. Also Sweden is good enough already and will be even better when the new gripens come out
Great, would be a nice squad vehicle for usa
Im expecting it more with something like the F-15C
Its not about good enough ,its about chocie/diversity.
Top tier for them literally being 1 row of aircraft, made up of 3 of the same aircraft but upgraded each time, would be really boring. Imagine if the US tree from now on was ONLY F-15 upgrades. No F-18, F-117, F-111C, etc. Nothing , the only vehicle the US will get from now on is the F-15
Did you miss the C&P part. Aka it it has no place in the US.
Plus that would only worsen Canada’s treatment. Which is the worst treated nation that doesn’t have a tech-tree.
Well the US has a pretty damn good aircraft industry, so that won’t happen. Even if it did the f-15 is arguably the best and most combat proven fighter jet, second only to the f-22. Also we could get the strike eagle and variants, and get 9x. My fav jet is the f15 tho so might be partial to ot
No, c&p has no place in other tech trees, and it should be a squadron vehicle so doesn’t matter as much. And the Canada treatment thing makes no sense, how is it treated the worst of it isn’t in game
It is entirely subjective. Just because its seen a lot of combat, doesnt mean it is the best because the others haven’t. Typhoon and Rafale will probably outperform it in game continuously. Why im actually expecting the Typhoon and Rafale to be so massively delayed and probably nerfed through the floor like the Gripen has been.
So does the rest of the world. France I think actually exports nearly as much as the US these days. But i wasnt saying that the US should get nothing, Im saying imagine that was it. You got 3 more versions of the F-15, and that was it for the rest of the game’s life. Finnish F-18 (which is an official sub nation of the Sweden) is all but certain coming at some point in the future.
Now I am going to say this. I dont want 10000 C&Ps.
1x Canadian leopard
1x Australian F-111C
1x Canadian CF-18.
That is all high tier C&P Britain needs right now/in the future. In all other respects. Bring on the 1000 or so British vehicles they keep refusing to add.
The one you should actually fight, and a few soviets want this. Iranian F-14s to the Soviet tree. Just gunna leave that one there for you to deal with in the future
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Well the F-111 should be able to get the GBU-28 as it did in desert storm.
The GBU-28 is a 5,000-pound (2,268 kg) class laser-guided “bunker busting” bomb produced originally by the Watervliet Arsenal, Watervliet, New York. It was designed, manufactured, and deployed in less than three weeks due to an urgent need during Operation Desert Storm to penetrate hardened Iraqi command centers located deep underground. Only two of the weapons were dropped in Desert Storm, both by F-111Fs. One GBU-28 was dropped during Operation Iraqi Freedom and some reportedly during the 2021 Israel–Palestine crisis.
Specs
Guided Bomb Unit‐28 (GBU‐28)
Type Laser-guided bunker busting bomb
Place of origin: United States
Service history: In service Since 1991
Used by:
- United States
- Israel
- South Korea
Wars: Gulf WarProduction history
Manufacturer: Raytheon
- General Dynamics Ordnance and Tactical Systems
Specifications
Mass 4,700 lb (2,131.9 kg)
Length * 19 ft 1.3 in (5.824 m) overall- 13 ft 3 in (4.04 m) bomb body
Diameter * 15 in (382 mm) main body- 16 in (407 mm) widest point
Filling Tritonal, AFX‐757 IM
Filling weight 675 lb (306.2 kg)
Detonation
mechanism Impact, time delay
Source: GBU-28 - Wikipedia
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