Well in theory R77-1 is a 2009 missile in that case.
what are the sources where the president’s acceptance into service is indicated?
Adoption can be either earlier or later.As with the Su-30SM, which began to be delivered in 2012.However, it was adopted in 2018
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Explain more?
And why did you mention it then, if it’s at least 8 years older than the AIM-120C-7?
7 years
Look at the source up there, first purchase in 2009, bigger batch in 2010 and 11.
Purchases of missiles =/= entry of service, I don’t know how many times I need to repeat this.
Year of purchase =/= Year for entry of service
Testing year =/= Year for entry of service
In fact, here’s a source showing AIM-120D was being tested in 2006. If @BBCRF is going to repeatedly state R-77-1 was being tested in 2011, then here’s AIM-120D being tested in 2006.
F-22 CTF tests AIM-120D noise, vibration > Edwards Air Force Base > News (af.mil)
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The first contract for the R-77-1 rocket was signed at MAKS-2009 simultaneously with the contract for the Su-35S…Large-scale production began in 2013…
1.TsAST…Also, the experts of the TsAST are known on the Internet under the nickname -bmpd…
Russia’s Best Military Aircraft: Not Armed with the Best Aircraft-Killer Missiles | The National Interest
missiles.ru :: КТРВ - ракетный конракт с МО России
State tests were completed in 2011…
2. Delay of large-scale production for 2 years (from unofficial sources)-this is explained by the refinement of the missile homing head or the use of another option, I also want to remind you that according to unofficial sources, there were at least 2 upgrades of the R-77-1 missile homing heads in the period 2013-2023, while the name of the rocket did not change…
3.You have already been told that adoption into service not a dogma…The Su-35S entered service in 2017, the Su-27S/P in 1990, before that there were Su-27, Su-33 in 1998, and the Yak-28P/PM were not officially adopted at all…
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Well PL15 was tested first in 2011, according to you this is further ahead than AIM120D since that was just hang, whilst PL15 is actively fired and only took 4-6 years to enter service, RVV-SD started in 2001/2002 and the air force received it for tests in 2009, into service in 2011.
Why did you decide that the R-77-1 first appeared on the Su-35S?.Personally, my opinion is that for the MiG-31BM., but there is such a photo fact…
Su-27SM3 summer 2013 Krymsk air base… Звезда 1/72 Су-27СМ3 из Крымска : 1/72 : Статьи (scalemodels.ru)
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It’s a more recent version of it? The same way our 1991 F-16CM has 2005 upgrade elements.
The R-37M doubles the range of the 120D, at least in stated figures. Right now it holds the world’s longest combatant kill.
But again, that’s the reason why dates mean nothing.
bruh
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Yeah, F15C should have AESA but if you add AESA you need a balance like Su35 and J10C and rafael and late EF, I feel like that will be another point when huge inbalance happen.
Bravo!..They noticed…A joke!
If I wanted to mislead you, I wouldn’t post a photo and a link at the same time!..
The original photo is in the comments below…
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120D is incompetent against the new completely newly designed missiles thus AIM260 is wanted. (I know mostly PL15 pressure) AIM120D is not limited by propelling and not radar, but there is no point for any more development based on AIM120. I think maybe twice the range is a bit blur but still AIM260 should (in theory) come in this year (no idea) just what some sources say.
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The R-37M is not a “completely newly designed missile”. It’s an old missile with disappointing combat effectiveness, despite being launched six times a day, according to the Russians themselves. The myths about its huge capabilities are explained by the Russian tendency for lying and dishonest advertising.
R-77-1 Begin tested 2006-2007
I didn’t quite get your point. What’s the point?
its combat effectiveness is very high.About 6 times a day for the first time I hear this
It shouldn’t have an AESA, there’s nothing saying it should.
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