Buff The SU-27SM / J-11A Or Fix The R-77

I don’t know what Gaijin was on but I want that, the R-77 is currently underperforming HUGELY and nothing has been said about it by Gaijin and their employees so far. This is a yearly like thing, USA is the top dog then the USSR and this usually shifts but at this stage it has gotten substantially worse.

The AIM-120 currently reigns supreme over all other types of missiles and this mostly effects vehicle such as the SU-27SM and J-11A and mainly because of their poor platform, god awful radar and mediocre missiles (the R-73/E and the R-77).

The J-11A is the worst case here however, it still has the SPO-15LM, still has the N001 so only 1 datalink channel and has the worst top tier (13.0) platform which makes the cherry on top.

Thoughts about how the SU-27SM and J-11A are currently performing?

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the su-27sm has no solution. that’s why there is the SU-27SM3 whith R-77-1 and more power engine

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Unrelated but how does the Su-27SM compared to the MiG-29SMT in general gameplay viability? I own both the base MiG-29 and Su-27 so IDK which Fox-3 carrier I should grind first

For BVR and long range engagements the MiG-29SMT should be better thanks to its significantly better radar but overall the SU-27SM should be superior.

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It has MAW so clearly it is equal to 27SM/F-15/16C 🙃

MAWS only works in certain aspects and has a short detection range, there has been times I’ve gotten a missile warning and died instantly in BVR engagements. MAWS is something to absolutely not rely on and its like a thin layer of reassurance which does the job in minor areas.

Want to know what’s better than a gimmicky MAWS? A actual digital RWR which can discriminate aircrafts and shows their specific range and direction.

If you were being sarcastic ignore everything above lol ^^

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There is no point in playing anything that isn’t america in air anymore. Good job mutts, you won… Enjoy your constant civil war now

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“Worst BVR missiles” huh? The Derby would like to have a word with you at 53km in the sky.

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All of the Flankers need new flight models.

J-11A’s SPO-15 should be replaced by a KJ8602, as it is modelled as a J-11A MLU ingame.
Radar should be a N001VE, but i need sources.

Either the R-77 is underperforming (just like every FOX-3 that isnt the 120) or they need R-77-1. Maybe J-11A MLU can carry PL-12, there are probably pictures or documentation somewhere.

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Since the release of this update I haven’t died to an R-77 yet. That’s how bad they are.

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why are you crying?

Since release of update i didnt die to fox3, when i also have fox3…

When there was only R-27ER - you didnt write anything about balance.
ANY fox-1 missile(except 27ER) cant do same stuff, as R-27ER.
Best speed? R-27ER
Best range? R-27ER
Best maneuverability? Still 27ER.

And yes - R-77 not underperforming, it have specific fins, that give maneuverability, but takes a lot of speed.

Implemention of LOFT in game also… not very good, only doing worser in game.

You still have R-27ER, that superior by speed and range. Just use it properly.

And why you crying about r-77? There is still missiles like MICA, Derby, that worser by range.

SPO-15 still not starting to give false information, like when you turning on your radar - it didnt find yourself as attacker for your rwr, as must be IRL.

Overall - i understand that red side starting to cry, when they have not best missile/tank/etc.

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Build better planes next time

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build trash planes, focus on promoting them in propaganda instead of real capabilities, cry when the propaganda doesn’t live up to reality, the Russian main way

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But F-16/etc cant cobra for airshow!!1!1…
Pretty fun
Su-27 made for it’s graphs from manual
But still cant kill anythin

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Russian players, the biggest crybaby sooks, always throwing tantrums when they don’t get to freely stomp everyone else with impunity, Sad!

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The real F-15C MSIP II was armed with AIM-120C7 and AIM-9X missiles, so I don’t understand what you’re complaining about. You were given an artificially weakened opponent.

By the way, the R-77 missiles were not actually present on the Su-27SM because the Russians never procured them for their aircraft.

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It depends, can be with 120A in 1992.
But in game we have 2005 version, so at least 9X and 120C-5

About R-77 - Russians atarted to have them in 2012/2011. And that was 77-1

As example - 120C-7 was made earlier

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