British Weapon Systems - Technical data and discussion

CMs aren’t final, there are another 2xALE-40 bins to model.

Final count should be 30 LC and 60 STD CMs.

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Now that would be a far more reasonable CM count. I was thinking 30 seemed insanely low.

That still doesn’t compensate for the utter mediocrity of no man in the loop mode and the insane-o BR. Well at least it’s still got better overall performance than the A-7E lol

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As I understand the RARDEN’s cyclic rate is 90, but with the clip loading its impossible to supply enough ammunition to pull that off, realistically you’d end up with the 80 RPM figure

nope, the commander is keeping the rounds loaded, if he does not he have to crank up the system again, so the gun has continous fire. The 3 shell clip is loaded, and commander already holds the next one to insert

You can see the pre first fire sequence here. Checking the gun cranking it up etc 13:20

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Well at least its better than going to the effort of modeling things properly, then reversing course once realizing that it was slightly stronger than intended (and the Russian counterpart)

Excerpt from the MiG-27M devblog (26th of August, 2021)

Unlike the seeker of the Maverick missiles, the Kh-29T missile and the KAB-500kr guided bomb are equipped with a TV-correlation seeker, the main feature of which is the difference in the visual image of the captured area and the rest of the background. This means that such seeker will not be able to lock on single ground targets such as a tank, but they will be able to capture any point on the land surface. Thus, the player will be able to strike at the intended locations of the target without visual detection (tanks in the bushes, or at the capture point, covered by an obstacle). However, if the enemy’s tank changes its position, then the drop will be done on an empty spot.

and just over a year later (14th of September, 2022)

Seekers like these can track optically contrast objects. As it is not possible to implement true contrast edge tracking in the game we allow seekers to lock on any point on the ground. So any point on the ground is considered contrast object.

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the fix was literally as simple as reverting the change of a Boolean value from true to false, and revising the hard cutoffs if they felt it was necessary.

And that isn’t even the only example, look at what happened to the TOW-2B, and before that HESH right after the IS-6 was added (and the extra 200mm breach plate that was added in error). is it any wonder that people see patterns where none supposedly exist.

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Both those quotes say exactly the same thing, just worded differently.

Let me highlight the contradiction for you then.

Unlike the seeker of the Maverick missiles, (Those) equipped with a TV-correlation seeker.
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This means that such seeker will not be able to lock on single ground targets
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if the enemy’s tank changes its position, then the drop will be done on an empty spot.

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(Contrast) Seekers like these can track optically contrast objects
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we allow seekers to lock on any point on the ground.
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So any point on the ground is considered contrast object.

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Yeah point on the ground, not object on said ground. Literally stated the thing just worded differently. Not getting where you think they’re saying different things.

They are talking about tracking functions that fundamentally work in opposite ways (contrast vs correlation), the fact that they do the same thing, is the issue as they are conflating two wildly different techniques.

Contrast techniques work by correcting for pointing error of the stabilized Seeker, comparing the computed location of the centroid of the target being tracked, as it moves across the FOV and attempt to maneuver the airframe to zero out the apparent movement of the target centroid, thus establish & maintain the intercept’s required geometry thought the flight, the same way most missiles do.

Correlation works by tracking spatial relationships between the entire image (or multiple smaller sections of the image) vs what it was at launch and so can be targeted at * low / zero contrast targets*(e.g. the ground, which obviously would not be able to be tracked by the former due to insufficient available contrast), or even specific locations regardless of contrast since its the relationship between them that matters.

Of course the latter is much more likely to break lock, and will stop correcting for errors in its flight path earlier for regular targets one the field of view changes sufficiently.

Datamine shows

  • Buccaneer S. Mk. 2B – 104x countermeasures
  • Buccaneer S. Mk. 2B – 4x GBU-16/B

So new bucc got its countermeasures it seems, nice amount of them. But the 4x laser guided bombs, I thought they could only carry 3 in total?

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There is a funny story here.
Some russian players in forum cried everywhere about their kab bomb.They showed up in many forums like SPF and reddit posting thing like “Is there any evidence walleye can’t track moving target”.“Is there any evidence kab-500kr can track moving target”
And some clowns even posted a issue,they posted some description about bomb and said
“In short, the Russian equivalent of the American “smart bomb” was better. So it should track moving targets.”
Of course the issue was “not a bug”,
but gaijin still secretly gave Kab-500kr ability to track moving tanks in a update for unknown reason.

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I think the reason was that seeker was apparently modernized / revised at some point under the same designation that resampled the comparison image for later computational cycles every so often.

Theoretically allowing for significant changes in the scene to be accounted for. but from what I remember of the discussion the proof provided was weak, and inconclusive about when it was even designed, let alone accepted in to service.

Maybe 1 internally?

That would be so cursed lol

Perhaps the T-Pod can be equipped on different pylons so theoretically it could carry 4 but then no guidance method.

The main user of basic kab-500kr in game is MIG27M/K,since russian mig27s retired in 1993.I really doubt they can get the new bombs(if exist).

Actually the correlation seeker problem still exist.
The new Kh-38MT in dev.Gajin is using data much older than the missile,which made it a 40km 2.2M missile.But the manufacturer of missile changed its description in 2022,and claimed its a 70km range missile flying at 350-380m/s.
And we know almost nothing about seeker,and i really want to know how gaijin know its a contrast IR seeker.

Does anyone know how much conter measures the new buccaneer will get?

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