British Weapon Systems - Technical data and discussion

[Flame2512]

@tripod2008

Also how SAMs are going to counter them as most don’t have great search radars, or guns to perform last ditch lead walls like some Russian systems (the secret to killing them is knowing that if they are targeting your position the missile will stay in the same apparent location) so are probably going to really need to be on their toes, or the SP cost is going to be prohibitively expensive to take the datalink.

Martel cruises at about Mach 0.75, and has a sustainer motor that burns for around 90 seconds. That does make it a fairly large and obvious target, compared to something like a walleye.

[tripod2008]

@Flame2512

compared to something like a walleye.

The closest direct counterpart would probably have been the AGM-53, had it seen service. but I don’t know if Gaijin would go to those lengths for the A-6 / F-14 since it was not procured though did complete flight testing.

[G2_Alem4o]

just another pgm……

[Flame2512]

Time to riot

[Shirazz]

The Maverick G, denied to the Harrier Gr.7, has now been given to the Gripen.

Edit: @Gunjob do you know if the Martel will remain a bad maverick, or will it get man-in-the-loop?

[G2_Alem4o]

no CR2 mantlet remake, and fox is in 7.0. Also the best JAS 39 give to italy

[G2_Alem4o]

True dude

[AblativeKitten]

Hopefully they add it to everything else that carried it, but we’ll need to wait for the dev server to see

[G2_Alem4o]

When it open

[AblativeKitten]

Normally once the dev streams have finished

[G2_Alem4o]

[warhead_beast]

the missle test is probably live on the dev server

[Flame2512]

Some AMRAAM firing envelopes:

The AIM-120 'AMRAAM' - History, Design, Performance & Discussion

Here’s a couple of AMRAAM firing envelopes I found in a British report on the Sea Harrier programme. The report is from the mid 1980s, so is referring to the AIM-120A. There are no launch / target conditions included with the Sea Level one, but seeing as it is based on Sea Harrier it is likely sub-sonic launch (like the medium altitude one is). [image] [image] [image] [image] And before anyone freaks out the report is declassified, and has been since 2017.

I also found some more AMRAAM document recently, so will have to start working through those a bit sooner than planned.

[Morvran]

Very disappointed in what the Martels look like. basically gunna be a useless weapon system for GRB. I just hope they work vs ships in ASB

[Flame2512]

I’ll be doing lots of reports on them. Hopefully either get them their proper guidance. Or at least buff their current guidance.

[Morvran]

Yep, definetly gunna be needed. But if they are dependent on TV seeker to lock onto a target, then they are always gunna be fairly weak. TV seekers are just unreliable sometimes.

[Morvran]

Though all round kinda a bit disappointed by the Buc S2B. Only 30 CMs seems very low, surprised it has so few. I guess then the Buc S2B got no new cockpit. Didnt see any evidence of even a naval radar for it at long last.

[Mitchverr]

The main selling point to me for Bucc was the Martel, right now it acts like a phat maverick with about 50% chance to hit a stationary target. Very sadge.

Everything else it does, other jets do better and on that BR, just take a jaguar for laser bombs for example.

I really do hope they give us a better man in the loop system or increase its accuracy because its a real shame right now.

[Flame2512]

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/Y5BrZ6gGHVXX

[MythicPi]

Did they ever fix the BOL IR’s btw or are they still just the worst flares in-game?