They also used Canadair Sabers.
CL-13 Mk 2 and CL-13 Mk 4.
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That was a bad shot honestly. It’s theoretically fine as you shoot, but he goes through the notch once the missile leaves the rails and because it resets its flight controls when that happens, it put it outside of its maneuvering capability for that shot. If the fins didn’t reset it probably would have been fine. Is not a Skyflash issue, it’s a SARH issue in general.
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Follow on from comments I made on the IRIS-T thread, on how it doesn’t matter that IRIS-T, AIM-9X etc etc can turn harder than the ASRAAM, you will be dead before that happens. This confirmed from the new doc @Flame2512 sourced from the National Archives.
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From what I’ve seen ASRAAM will probably be the best IR missiles when it gets added.
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The only issue I can see happening is if it’s 50G dual plane and not roll stabilised.
MICA IR would like to have a word with you :).
But otherwise i agree, the range doctrine of the ASRAAM over the maneuvrability of the IRIS-T/ 9X is the one that will be meta in WT (and is also “Meta” irl).
The thing that could save the IRIS-T is its ability to shoot down missile. It’s probably more a gimmick than a capability you can use to shoot down 100% of ennemy missile but still could be usefull.
The 50G (supposed) of the ASRAAM will be enough for most encounters in the game.
The only situation where the IRIS-T/9X will be better is if you go into a furr-ball or if the ennemy surprise you and is very close to you.
How do you see the two comparing? Am I right in thinking MICA has a bit more range, but a somewhat worse seeker?
I’ve never quite got to the bottom of what makes it so that IRIS-T can do that while other missiles cannot. Certainly in game I expect all missiles will be able to do it (current missiles in game already can)
Probably its more sensitive to smaller heat sources, like a head of another missile. That is the only thing i can make out. I dont think its proxy or guidence precision.
The MICA has indeed a bit more range, is more maneuvrable when the TVC is on but a bit worse after.
Seeker wise , the ASRAAM has better HOBS capabilities (90° vs 60° gimbal) and the MICA IR has a better IRCCM hardware wise (Dual Band vs Single band), we won’t know software wise obviosuly.
It’s better than other missile at hitting very maneuvrable target (ie other missile) since its using a H-infinity icontroler instead of a PID one and is probably the most maneuvrable missile on the market today.
While other missile can indeed already hit missile, i guess the IRIS-T can do it quite reliably.
And also the IRIS-T is the quickest to do a 180° shot and has probably the lowest NEZ of any missile which can be used quite effectively*.
*If you get into a dogfight after a merge (visual id needed irl) or if you’re close to the target during an Air-Patrol.
Any idea what kind of range we’re talking about? More than AIM-7F levels?
Who the hell came up with this and why did we not put it into production!
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Depending on the variant 60km (NG is thought to have 100+) is whats quoted by the Greek air force compared to ASRAAM’s 50km.
The good news with the BR increase means that the Phantom’s can finally go back to pre-danger zone levels of use ability.
Nope, only the newest things get moved out of the scope, so pre Air Superiority. You are still f***ed.
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Either way, we know how the war thunder matches go, soon enough everything ends up in a clusterball because everyone flies straight while flying low and dodging bvr missles. The end result the IRIS-T and Aim 9X will be superior in the clusterball that we know
I would put my guess on the proxy fuse.
AIM-9X, ASRAAM and the like all use laser proximity fuses, which are basically 4 lasers projected out the sides of the missiles (with 90° angles between them). IRIS uses a radar proximity fuse, which probably works better when you need to detect another small object like a missile, which could slip right between the lasers on other missiles
Though guidance probably helps as well
However. Most of the 12.3’s are going to be facing uptiers at 12.7. So 80% of the time you are going to see 11.0-11.7 vehicles.
Ummm, try dodging a 50G sparrow-M with 9M+ levels of IRCCM.
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U say that like gajin will even implement it correctly