The tactic with ASRAAM would be to kill the other aircraft before they make it to the clusterball.
I imagine it will be better implemented than IRIS-T
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In the first place, if everything gets implemented right, our meteors would take anyone before it even comes to iris-t and asraam range
its the day old debate, we will see once it comes to it
Watch them come with another “Control surfaces are too small to obtain the claimed 50G, it will get 33G instead”
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We really do not need to be talking about these missiles for another year hopefully.
But while we’re on the subject Britain should be able to use the Rafael Derby because derby is in the UK and thusly because the King has supreme power he should be capable of putting it on the FGR.2 that was put out of service 25 years ago /j.
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Isn’t that just a python 4 with a ARH seeker
Im hoping for Tornado Gr4 with 2x ASRAAM (and more limited intergration) by the end of the year, but yeah, long way off yet.
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Did the Brits use any of these?
Also what about sidearm were they ever considered or was it ALARM from day one?
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They are all crazy prototypes from China Lake, so I doubt any of them ever made it to Britain. Britain made a few tweaks to the Sidewinder seeker (de-chirp, SWIFT, etc.), but I’m not aware of any properly crazy prototypes like those.
Britain’s first ARM was the Martel. After the Martel there was a closely fought battle between the proposed ALARM and the HARM, which the ALARM just about won (it was considered the better missile, but a significant technical risk).
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It’s not really a debate tbf
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I agree with you.
The ASRAAM is essentially a very powerfull 50G missile, there’s no new technology the dev have to develop / refine.
While the IRIS-T has TVC they have to refine and a multiple stage engine (more than just a booster and a sustener) they have to add.
I guess IRCCM wise they’ll just model an IFOV off 0.1 for both of them so nothing new again.
that sounds right but i’d argue that any reasonably experienced pilot would rtb instead of going for a merge
The Kurnass2k already gets six missiles BETTER than 9Ls at 11.3…
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The ASRAAM is perfectly capable of it. Ukraine has been using ground-based ASRAAM launchers to shoot down Russian missiles to great effect. If it can spot cruise missiles from long range, I’m sure it can also do the same with smaller missiles at close range.
So what did the SWIFT do? Was it basically just the L/I equivalent?
I’ve spent the last couple of years trying to work that out. All I know for sure is that it was a British IRCCM modification, and it saw some amount of service.
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Yeah I thought so plus an integrated gun, slats, guided air to ground armament in the form of paveways and Mavericks, and 200 more countermeasures…
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Not too mention the Tornado F3 Arguement for the Phantoms.
(FGR2 I think also could get AGM-12s, would be a big buff for A2G)
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Yeah just a total fustercluck on the phantoms.
Im hoping the Atlas Cheetah will solve that issue soon enough.
I just hope getting that doesnt result in us missing out on something British, like we’ve had with the Ground Tree since SA was added.
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To be fair there is next to nothing else british for the 11.3 bracket. The UK did to the Phantom and Tornado what we did to the Cr.2 and just pretended to upgrade it so it stayed “modern” until we got something new.
Historically the US based fighters at Lakenheath which would have supported with Tornados intercepting bombers and FG phantoms doing whatever they could.
Atlas Cheetah would be the only fighter I can think of for this area.
Rank 6 though still has numerous British potential additions.