The good news with the BR increase means that the Phantom’s can finally go back to pre-danger zone levels of use ability.
Nope, only the newest things get moved out of the scope, so pre Air Superiority. You are still f***ed.
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Either way, we know how the war thunder matches go, soon enough everything ends up in a clusterball because everyone flies straight while flying low and dodging bvr missles. The end result the IRIS-T and Aim 9X will be superior in the clusterball that we know
I would put my guess on the proxy fuse.
AIM-9X, ASRAAM and the like all use laser proximity fuses, which are basically 4 lasers projected out the sides of the missiles (with 90° angles between them). IRIS uses a radar proximity fuse, which probably works better when you need to detect another small object like a missile, which could slip right between the lasers on other missiles
Though guidance probably helps as well
However. Most of the 12.3’s are going to be facing uptiers at 12.7. So 80% of the time you are going to see 11.0-11.7 vehicles.
Ummm, try dodging a 50G sparrow-M with 9M+ levels of IRCCM.
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U say that like gajin will even implement it correctly
The tactic with ASRAAM would be to kill the other aircraft before they make it to the clusterball.
I imagine it will be better implemented than IRIS-T
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In the first place, if everything gets implemented right, our meteors would take anyone before it even comes to iris-t and asraam range
its the day old debate, we will see once it comes to it
Watch them come with another “Control surfaces are too small to obtain the claimed 50G, it will get 33G instead”
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We really do not need to be talking about these missiles for another year hopefully.
But while we’re on the subject Britain should be able to use the Rafael Derby because derby is in the UK and thusly because the King has supreme power he should be capable of putting it on the FGR.2 that was put out of service 25 years ago /j.
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Isn’t that just a python 4 with a ARH seeker
Im hoping for Tornado Gr4 with 2x ASRAAM (and more limited intergration) by the end of the year, but yeah, long way off yet.
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Did the Brits use any of these?
Also what about sidearm were they ever considered or was it ALARM from day one?
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They are all crazy prototypes from China Lake, so I doubt any of them ever made it to Britain. Britain made a few tweaks to the Sidewinder seeker (de-chirp, SWIFT, etc.), but I’m not aware of any properly crazy prototypes like those.
Britain’s first ARM was the Martel. After the Martel there was a closely fought battle between the proposed ALARM and the HARM, which the ALARM just about won (it was considered the better missile, but a significant technical risk).
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It’s not really a debate tbf
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I agree with you.
The ASRAAM is essentially a very powerfull 50G missile, there’s no new technology the dev have to develop / refine.
While the IRIS-T has TVC they have to refine and a multiple stage engine (more than just a booster and a sustener) they have to add.
I guess IRCCM wise they’ll just model an IFOV off 0.1 for both of them so nothing new again.
that sounds right but i’d argue that any reasonably experienced pilot would rtb instead of going for a merge
The Kurnass2k already gets six missiles BETTER than 9Ls at 11.3…
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The ASRAAM is perfectly capable of it. Ukraine has been using ground-based ASRAAM launchers to shoot down Russian missiles to great effect. If it can spot cruise missiles from long range, I’m sure it can also do the same with smaller missiles at close range.