British Weapon Systems - Technical data and discussion

Why this posted in the Brit thread unless I’m missing something

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Sometimes the Brits need to be aware of the shenanigans across the channel, presumably.

We monitoring the world

  • God save the Queen

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We need a bigger stick than the MLU can provide.

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Thought this would be the case, which is why I wasn’t malding on it (like I have for everything else).

Mixed views though. If you want it to be future-proofed and versatile for retrofit, you’re locking it to the same form-factor as an MRAAM, AMRAAM or Meteor-like. But we know damn well Tempest is way bigger than both so that’s an unnecessary restriction.

I get that money’s tight but MLU as an equal partner with everybody else wouldn’t be so expensive. I’d suggest MLU for Typhoon and F-35 life-times.

And then FASE on Tempest as a clean-sheet, very high performance missile, with MLU also being Tempest compatible perhaps in greater numbers.

(like how you see J-20’s carrying both PL-15’s and then also their VLRAAM’s like PL-17 though Tempest we’d want that done internally).

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Nothing stopping us buying it later on if France continues anyway. But FASE is more than just the BVRAAM. So more to be seen yet.

Also SPICE 250 is the best DEAD weapon I’ve used so far. More effort than an ARM but it gets the job done.

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And now imagine we could bring 16 Spice + 2 HARMs or 4x HARM + 8 Spice :3

Just wish it didn’t have that annoying Mach limit

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My new pet-hated word. Effectors.

I.

Hate.

That.

Word.

IT’S A MISSILE! You fire it and it goes boom. It doesn’t ‘effect’ the target - it smacks it in the face and blows up! STOP CALLING IT AN EFFECTOR! It doesn’t even make sense! Garrgh!

*At this point - Crazed Otter blew a gasket and destroyed bits of his keyboard.

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They start to avoid word missile, as they are no longer designed to miss :D

So it’s a good effector then 😛

But these new effectors are a step change in lethality and truly a game changer in kinetic warfare…

Did I miss any?

modular open system architecture/approach

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was it a head gasket? if so I hope a head bolt doesn’t snap when trying to replace it

‘Agile’
‘New and Improved’
‘Bleeding Edge’

You know - the sorts of phrases that if you were in a meeting with these people you’d be tempted to throw some fruit at them. Still in the tins.

Oh yes. ‘Forward Planning.’

I’M NOT PLANNING FOR STUFF I DID YESTERDAY AM I?

(Joking aside - if they cut out half the management lingo they’d singlehandedly reduce the cost of procurement. F-35 would probably cost something like £9.99 once you’d stripped away all the waffle…)

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But without workshares, ‘British by Birth’, just like Boxer right ;)

Indeed, the news on reopening of the CAMM and ASRAAM lines is positive, and with the current air-warfare trends in stealth I suspect ASRAAM/MICA level missiles will be more and more useful. Very-long-range AAM’s will be for shooting down logistical and support aircraft. With shorter detection ranges against stealth aircraft a new missile with ASRAAM’s philosophy and a smaller form-factor for more numerous carriage might become exceedingly useful.

‘at pace’

a part of me becomes increasingly anarchist every time i read that phrase as well as lethal(ity).

Well the old Tempest render the RAF has up has some CAMM looking missiles;

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