British Weapon Systems - Technical data and discussion

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I was looking through the old Challenger 2 thread and this caught my eye.

It states that the Chieftain 900 uses the Macaroni GCE 628 gun control / stab system. Ingame the Chieftain 900 has the same gun handling as the Chieftain Mk.5, which is quite bad. According to the stats here, the gun handling should actually be:

Turret traverse: 20.0 deg/s → 36 deg/s
Gun elevation speed: 4 deg/s → 11.25 deg/s

That would be a huge buff for the vehicle if implemented, if anyone has any more info or the full document i’d appeciate you sharing it so I can make a report

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Make it so.

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The issue youll have is thats statistics for a 16 ton turret
iirc chieftain is heavier

My first question would be what’s the weight of the 900’s turret?

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It’s obvious from the design that this is a janes, and it’s not suitable for a report.

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900’s turret would probably only br 500kg or so heavier than mk.5s

The whole tank is only 1 ton heavier, and that weight is split between turret and hull

I’ve seen things to suggest it had chobham irl.

I can’t be asked to contact the IWM archives again but they have a full in-depth video about the C900 from 1983.

As of 1982 the Chieftain 900 definitely only had mock Cobham Armour. I guess It might have had real armour added later, but I’ve not personally seen anything to suggest that was the case.

Yes, I’ve only seen bits here and there.

The thing I was talking about is the C900 video that is held by the IWM archives.

That would have a lot of information. If anyone goes and requests it, they would then know for sure.

Same way I got the full instructional video on the Sea Harrier HUD.

Except that took like 7 months.

Apparently the Supermarine Scimitar will finally get period-correct bombs in the next major
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/fteSOmcbaxM0
Hopefully the Hunter and Wyvern get actioned eventually too.
It’s a bit weird seeing so many of the post-Korea, to Aden-era aircraft still carrying WW2 bombs, while most of their predecessor 1st gen jets now have more modern ordnance.

Still hoping for a Red Beard nuke carrier for ground though

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Wonder if they will ever fix its rudder

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Is there any evidence that rudder is actually incorrect?

It was a bad interpretation.

The pilots notes said that the rudder stiffens above X speed gaijin decided to effectively lock the rudder.

The harrier, Hunter, swift, any other plane we made had this same characteristic.

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The pilot’s notes says:

The rudder feel is moderately light at low speed but becomes progressively heavier as speed increases until the rudder is almost immovable above 520 knots.

Gaijin’s position is that the rudder does become progressively stiffer in game until it is “almost immovable” at about 520 it’s, so it matches the behaviour described in the manual. And TBH it is pretty hard to argue with them based on what the pilot’s notes say.

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Hmm a bit odd.

Still why would you use it in air RB.

It only has value in SIM or GRB.

In mouse aim the rudder issue makes it impossible to aim.

Unfortunately I cant find any data on this really, but I do know for certain based off documents that the Challenger 1’s turret is 20,300kg

The Challenger is overall around 6 tonnes heavier than the Chieftain 900, I’d estimate the turret is a bit below 20 tonnes on it’s own, but that’s just an estimate unfortunately.

Considering the same turret drive on the Vickers Mk.7 can achieve 40 degrees/s, I imagine the weight wouldn’t be a huge issue.

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Now I’m even more surprised the Premium was GBT155, and not just a premium AS90 with the long-boi Braveheart gun
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For anyone who missed it, Oxy said it should get a 4.3 second reload for the first 3 shots, honestly it sounds quite fun if that is the case

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