British Weapon Systems - Technical data and discussion

A Meteor fired by a Brazilian Gripen E, 2 cool things we can see, the smoke from the conventional rocket motor is much more visible than the smoke from the Ramjet and the much less agressive loft in comparison with conventional ARH missiles

4 Likes

As far as I understand, ramjet-powered missiles can’t climb too high because the air becomes too thin and there’s not enough oxygen.

Also, why loft in a missile that can just maintain its speed instead.

Lofting is all about maximising a short burst of thrust by convert energy into altitude.

Meteor doesnt really care as much about that

Anyone got sources for the Aim-9M that states that Seeker shut-off works in all-aspect?

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/tmSP9xgDcw4T

Because of course, gaijin currently beleives that the Aim-9M seeker shut-off cares about what aspect the target is in and will just go for a flare otherwise.

Does anyone have any solid sources of AJAX’s weight in different armour configurations?

I think you’re misinterpreting their answer. He doesn’t say that IRCCM doesn’t work in front aspect. Rather, he means that such approximate calculations/estimates are not accepted from the players. You need to prove with sources that IRCCM in front aspect will work differently than current implementation.

As it is, the question is interesting. In 2 years, no one has yet been able to answer me why 9m works this way in the front aspect. Maybe (just a theory) this is done for balance, because the missiles with such irccm would be too strong. In most cases, it would be unreal to evade it.

I think the interpretation is simple.

We must prove common sense with sources that likely dont exists.

But of course Gatewidth works in front aspect and doesnt need primary sources to prove that its IRCCM works in front aspect

1 Like

They can’t accept reports on such basis. This will simply destroy the entire bug reporting system.

The response there doesn’t deny the ascertain, just you haven’t provided evidence. And no we don’t forward on the basis of common sense…

2 Likes

Okay, so do you have any sources for Aim-9M IRCCM working in all-aspect? / Do the devs have any sources for it ONLY working in rear-aspect?

I considered it a bug and not as a historical accuracy issue, which is why I didnt think sources would be needed as obviously the IRCCM should work in any aspect and was probably a bug.

3 Likes

I don’t you why you would think you wouldn’t need a source to change the behaviour of something. That’s never been the case.

I’ve added my own materials.

2 Likes

If for example I wanted to report something like Harrier landing gear travel times I of course would find sources for that where possible because that is obviously a historical modeling issue.

But something like this I would consider buggy, unintended behaviour, a game issue not necessarily a historical accuracy issue. For example, I wouldnt expect to need primary sources to report that this is wrong: Harrier II rudder/roll instability during turns

(P.S can you please forward that report, ive been trying for months with a dozen different TMs and even Smin)

But thank you for adding sources for this

Sooo, AIM-9M basically the most underperforming IR missile in-game?

  • Should have 35G overload (currently 30)

  • Should have 30°/s track rate (currently 22)

  • Should have vastly better lock range in both rear aspect and front aspect (like 3x as much)

  • Suspension tracking should work much better as it is missing crucial systems like Flare Rate Bias and Push Ahead (would more effectively ignore flares)

  • Suspension tracking should work in front aspect

  • Should have smokeless motor instead of a low smoke

  • Guidance currently bugged making it nearly useless

2 Likes

Your ascertain is the behaviour is wrong without stating with some materials why its wrong. You have to prove why said behaviour is wrong

1 Like

So does that mean I need primary docs to confirm that this shouldnt be happening?

No that’s an instructor issue, if it isn’t replicated with FRC then it doesn’t need a source material.

1 Like

You’ll be surprised what you can find with a trip to the National Archives
image

18 Likes

oh-oh-it's-beautiful

1 Like

Man the National Archives has a bunch of crazy stuff nobody really knows exists due to the lack of it being well… used at all I guess lol.

Meteor getting fitted in F-35
image

6 Likes