Should be, it’s the same radar as in the new Kifir. Also out of curiosity, why did you specify the IM?
I wasn’t entirely sure the other types got the got the upgrade to the radar to be completely honest. I was incorrect though as far as I can tell. Semi relatedly the radar should have ground modes if I’m reading the brochure correctly?
Yes. It has it on the Kifir
So as part of my love of the strikemaster I decided to buy David Watkins “From Jet Provost to Strikemaster” to have a nice read/pretty pictures book. A nice set of pictures I have not seen before (I assume from Warton) though I noted something specific when reading the development of the Strikemaster which doesnt got into much detail.
Specifically page 98 it goes into the armaments, it talks about fuel tanks, bombs, SURA R80s, Snebs, the internal FN machineguns but also mentions the ability to carry a pair of 0.5 inch mini-gun pods?
Given that the only image I have seen of minigun pods would be this with the SUU-11/A
I am thinking if they mean something like the SUU-12/a? (also called XM14 IIRC). The thing is I cant really find an image of this either beyond the bad 1 on wiki, also dont really know of any 50cal gunpods myself and thought I would see if anyone else would know of 1 that might fit the bill.
I also read an interesting interview that suggested that some pilots would be sent back to the UK from Oman for being too trigger happy with rockets, and that every use of them was inspected and in bombing runs they would usually drop only 1 of their 2 bombs and RTB with it on the wing due to the high cost/low budget situation they were in. This might explain why that image from BAE Warton exists with what to me look like SUU-11/a guns if they were looking for cheaper alternatives to ground attack (IIRC Iran had these gunpods, so their involvement might have also linked in).
So yeah, if anyone can assist a bit, would be grand xD
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IIRC missing loadouts/weapons is a bug report thing right?
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/eq1ml5W6sNK1
I gave it a go for the SUU-11/A gunpod and gave as much information as I can find trying to really support it, I doubt its enough but I tried to make the blunty have a bit more of an edge.
(also sorry for spammage chaps)
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god speed brother, anaemic guns is all we have so any kind of minigun would be well worth it. also, would a 50 cal minigun be called a minigun?
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Cheers, and yeah I have put an unreasonable amount of time and some money into trying to find more background information on that before I thought “why dont i just damn well ask BAE if its even real and if they say it is, just do it” lmao.
Though that time did help me to find the display planes with BL 755s slapped around them from 1972/73, so not a complete loss if we can pester gaijin into accepting that as a “good enough” xD.
And ofc, if anyone else happens to have/find anything feel free to add on.
Shir 2 on the way :)
Pretty good choice for an event vehicle. Seems like it will be very similar to the Challenger 1 but without thermals, worse ammo and with possibly worse armour. Personally I like this, as it put its down in BR to a place where APFSDS is less common
Could be a really fun 9.7 tank
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Armour should be identical to CR1.
Are the main differences just the lack of thermals then?
Yup, there’s other minor changes, like the FCS, between Shir 2 and CR1 etc. But they’re literally so similar the earlier CR1s are reworked Shir 2s.
I read somewhere that the FCS is similar or the same as the Khalid’s
I’m not entirely sure, should be the same as Shir 1 which became Khalid later, however I’ve read the Khalids got an improved FCS over the Shir 1, so I’m personally not entirely sure. If its the same as a Shir 1 it should be the TLS from the later chieftain’s iirc.
Heh - cannot complain about it being an event vehicle. Might actually put forth some effort on this one.
Stupid question - but presumably it will have LRF?
Yarp, should have the same sights at the Chieftain Mk.10 iirc
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Nice - so a Chieftain firing darts with some actual speeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed.
Insert Clarkson Meme here
Less chieftain more early CR1
Even better then. CR1s are in a good spot at the moment BR-wise. I’m hoping it’ll be a similar BR anyway.
L23 is a bad joke but i wont complain… yet. God im so happy its something i actually want, untill i see 45k…
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IDK why but in my mind without thermals, if they just locked it to APDS with L15 (isnt there 1 not in the game with a chunky bit of DU in it?) and made it a 9.3 (9.0?) tank it might have been more interesting. Relying on its heavy upper armour more and allowing it more of a niche role in the tree.
Did the UK plan to sell Iran L23 btw?
Nice addition, way too much grindfest for it though imo given its just a slightly knocked down challenger 1 which will likely be the same effective BR for a lineup.