IDK why but in my mind without thermals, if they just locked it to APDS with L15 (isnt there 1 not in the game with a chunky bit of DU in it?) and made it a 9.3 (9.0?) tank it might have been more interesting. Relying on its heavy upper armour more and allowing it more of a niche role in the tree.
Did the UK plan to sell Iran L23 btw?
Nice addition, way too much grindfest for it though imo given its just a slightly knocked down challenger 1 which will likely be the same effective BR for a lineup.
Just saw it in the other thread, really puts it more to shame they just went with L23, feels slightly idk, lazy to it? No plan to even add the ammo made for iran and the tank.
When theres all these they could use instead. Make its primary a HEAT-FS with L15a5 reserve and PISH (i think thats PISH? Looks it to me)
Chieftain 10 (9.0)
VFMS (9.3)
Ollifant Mk2 (9.3)
Warrior/fox/scimitar for IFV
SPAA is markman/Falcon/ZA-35
CAS is Wessex, Jaguar Gr1, Buc S2, Harrier Gr3 or Hunter F6
Its a lot of uptiering to make a half-decent line-up and It doesnt look that good (at least to me) to justify all that uptiering.
Dropping it down to 9.3 would mean much the same line-up but now 0.3 BR lower or buffing it up to 10.0 would open up options like the Stormer AD and Desert Warrior. Also if it got L23A1, then it would be far more vialbe as part of a 10.3 line-up with the Challenger Mk2
True, though my main issue with upping it is simply, we have 2 billion challenger models as it is at the 10.0 plus marker, do we really reeeeally need 1 of the few early level designs to have a round from after its development to make it “just another 1 on the line”?
For me, it would feel way more unique if it was 9.0/3 with the L15 round and “maybe” the HEAT-FS looking round developed for it (along with the PISH round), even if gaijin just give it similar capabilities to other HEAT-FS on the BR range, at least it would be way more unique on the lower end of things. IDK.
Like, really, would people actually put this in their lineup when they have the TT challengers and premium challengers and Warrior and SPAA and light tanks and air support and helis etc on top?
Yeah this is true, would liven the 9.0/9.3 up beautifully, would love to run this at 9.0 alongside the Mk10 or 9.3 alongside the Mk11 (if we ever get it)
I dont think Wessex or Wasp deserve to be at 9.0 ngl hah. I mean Scout and Alloutte could be moved up to 8.7 and it’d still be weird having Wessex and Wasp at a different BR tbh
Thats my thinking, I was hoping to use it with my chieftains, olifant mk2 and Bucc for ground strike lol.
(also, I am feeling like gaijin are ignoring the G6 bug report about the proxy round not being useful in impact mode given over a month and nothing, esp given it has a video, also just hoping my strikemaster report doesnt just sit in limbo, even if denied an answer is always nicer, i wanna drag strikemaster into 9.3 and brrrt enemy light armour/planes with surprise! I have managed to do it hunting alpha jets bit its tough xD)
MTTD has a giant problem, in that it has the ammunition in weak containers at the HIGHEST point so even when hull down and partially turret down you’re extremely vulnerable. It is almost certain these containers are meant to be blow out panels seperated from the crew but it does not function like that in game sadly. It also has some other generalisations, like basic Gen 1 thermals and an autoloader that just so happens to have the identical reload to bog standard L7s in game, but these are also just random guesses, the thing is from mid 2000s so Gen 2s seems a little more likely, and the reload we have no way of knowing really. Ammunition is another odd one, at this point the SDF had better ammo than DM23. It is somewhat crudely implemented.
