True, though my main issue with upping it is simply, we have 2 billion challenger models as it is at the 10.0 plus marker, do we really reeeeally need 1 of the few early level designs to have a round from after its development to make it “just another 1 on the line”?
For me, it would feel way more unique if it was 9.0/3 with the L15 round and “maybe” the HEAT-FS looking round developed for it (along with the PISH round), even if gaijin just give it similar capabilities to other HEAT-FS on the BR range, at least it would be way more unique on the lower end of things. IDK.
Like, really, would people actually put this in their lineup when they have the TT challengers and premium challengers and Warrior and SPAA and light tanks and air support and helis etc on top?
Yeah this is true, would liven the 9.0/9.3 up beautifully, would love to run this at 9.0 alongside the Mk10 or 9.3 alongside the Mk11 (if we ever get it)
I dont think Wessex or Wasp deserve to be at 9.0 ngl hah. I mean Scout and Alloutte could be moved up to 8.7 and it’d still be weird having Wessex and Wasp at a different BR tbh
Thats my thinking, I was hoping to use it with my chieftains, olifant mk2 and Bucc for ground strike lol.
(also, I am feeling like gaijin are ignoring the G6 bug report about the proxy round not being useful in impact mode given over a month and nothing, esp given it has a video, also just hoping my strikemaster report doesnt just sit in limbo, even if denied an answer is always nicer, i wanna drag strikemaster into 9.3 and brrrt enemy light armour/planes with surprise! I have managed to do it hunting alpha jets bit its tough xD)
MTTD has a giant problem, in that it has the ammunition in weak containers at the HIGHEST point so even when hull down and partially turret down you’re extremely vulnerable. It is almost certain these containers are meant to be blow out panels seperated from the crew but it does not function like that in game sadly. It also has some other generalisations, like basic Gen 1 thermals and an autoloader that just so happens to have the identical reload to bog standard L7s in game, but these are also just random guesses, the thing is from mid 2000s so Gen 2s seems a little more likely, and the reload we have no way of knowing really. Ammunition is another odd one, at this point the SDF had better ammo than DM23. It is somewhat crudely implemented.
it has dm33 now, thankfully, but most of your points still stands. The one thing i will say is, its still better than anything else we have to offer apart from maybe the 105 but thats a premium. I bring this to top tier and still do just as well as if i had brought out my type 19 instead. I would still highly recommend it in any lineup above 9.3.
Also, my opinion on the shir 2 is that at 9.7 it will do fine. No thermals is a massive non issue as i hardly use them on the mk 2 anyway due to them being gen 1 (should be 2, and would make mosing them a bigger issue). Also, not having the weakspot caused by that is also a massive plus, and l23 despite being entirely made up still works just fine at 10.7 let alone 9.7. So it baffels me when people ask for this to be at 9.3? even with apds i would say 9.7 would be perfectly fine if not a little annoying.
Im happy as long as it stays at 10.0 and bellow as i need a tank to go with my desert warrior and stormer.
Because having a lineup you dont need to uptier is more fun then uptiering a lineup. Also so the vehicle actually has a bit of a stand out position, is more interesting and doesnt just fade into the background after a few weeks/months as often happens to these event tanks and is more historically correct with the correct ammo.
Really it comes down to keeping it interesting, I 100% see its use drop after the initial shine comes off at its current/a higher BR, at 9.3 it would be a constant in lineups as its unique and has strong turret armour.
I think I do remember it once having a 0.5m proxy fuze a whiiiiiiiile ago. At the time I used it with the Teapache, and it worked well. And by a while I mean like, idk, 2-3 years. I could be mistaken tho.
Yeah, I dont think you can. I just fear Gaijin would look at Stormer HVM with Marlets and decide its 11.0 instead. Which basically means it can only be used with the CR2s at 11.7.
10.7 would be fine, but would suck if it was higher than that
I mean, 16 500mm pen atgms with prox does sound pretty powerful, that is untill you realise the 6.5km range and the fact thatll be more for helis (still think the stormer should have more than 7km range against helis considering the 7km range was for 9g targets…). What i would prefer is if they added the warrior variant with martlets and the 40mm (i think), would give us our “linebacker/lav” and would fill the top tier ifv simultaneous with the spaa role. Would be perfect as it gets prox rounds as well making it THE death of anything within 6km.
