British Weapon Systems - Technical data and discussion

[Smin1080p_WT]

@Fluffy_Bucketles

Factually, your argument is based on the perceived lack of countermeasures.

There are many reasons why mmW has not been implemented. Countermeasures is one, however the reasons as a whole have been explained in detail before:

@Stona_WT

Developer comment: We’d like to mention that Brimstone will only have semi-active laser homing (SAL) mode in the game. The fire and forget mode and the active radar homing seeker will not be available for a few reasons. The primary reason is that this seeker utilizes the “lock-on after launch (LOAL)” mode, this mode allows the weapon to be fired in the general area of a target without needing any actual precision from the operator, who can remain at long range in complete safety.

We feel weapons that can be used outside of the direct line of sight of the target without needing any preliminary reconnaissance or direct user targeting are not currently workable for the game. Weapons such as Brimstone, AGM-114L cause a particular problem and similarly to other ATGMs that have lock after launch modes like the Spike and AJ.168 will not have such abilities in the game.

These weapon types present several issues all at once, they require no challenge to use effectively and have no counterplay options for those being attacked. The attacker can operate outside of the range of any anti-air system in the game, Brimstone is also immune to smoke, so this won’t help either.

ARH modes for air-to-ground weapons won’t be workable until natural and artificial interference to these guidance systems can be implemented, as there are no electronic reconnaissance and electronic warfare systems in the game. Adding these weapons now would allow them to operate perfectly without any counter, which we don’t want to do. Additionally, at closer combat ranges ATGMs with ARH cannot distinguish between allied and enemy targets, and this would lead to a l

You have made your opinions very clear that you disagree with this and thats more than fine for you to hold opinions on that.

Tagging me over and over however when all answers have already been provided to you from the developers isn’t sadly going to lead to a sudden change in the devs answers.

@Fluffy_Bucketles

Either you are questionably equipped to engage with such a high brow topic, or you are being dishonest regarding it.

Im going to give you a direct warning here to avoid the personal and direct negative insults you seem keen to throw here.

I have provided you with the facts as they are from the devs. You are welcome to disagree with that and leave your thoughts and views on the content matter as well as constructive feedback.

Getting personal and frankly crossing the line of reasonable constructive discussion however is not acceptable. So please rethink your approach.

Nobody is trying to deprive you of your opinion.

[HyPe_Mars6746]

@Smin1080p_WT

There currently is no smoke avalable to all nations that defeats Brimstone

It’s almost like that’s the point of innovation, having an advantage over your opponents.

Theres also no British equivalent to KH38

[Smin1080p_WT]

@HyPe_Mars6746

It’s almost like that’s the point of innovation, having an advantage over your opponents.

That was never in question for real world application. However for game balance thats not an ideal at all.

[AlvisWisla]

@Smin1080p_WT

There currently is no smoke avalable to all nations that defeats Brimstone.

Is this implying the devs have an exhaustive list of tanks that use such smoke grenades?

[Fluffy_Bucketles]

Kh 38 already creates the balancing problems you’re describing. As outlined previously. There is nothing MMW seekers bring to the table that is not already a problem created by the Kh 38. All it does is create a slow missile with effectively equivalent counterplay to kh 38, except it is in the air for significantly longer to shoot down.

Especially not on a missile that if your organisation’s track record for modeling similar persists, will hit like a wet noodle.

[БрИт4нСкUй_П0дС0С]

@Fluffy_Bucketles

I assure you, it most certainly will hit a target that is static in smoke.

This means that they all used the smoke too late. Obviously, the kh38 gives you the least amount of reaction time, because it's the fastest missile. All IR missiles behave the same way when the target uses smoke.

[_Froge]

in other news it looks like the CR2s got their HP buff on dev

[Master_Teaz]

You what

[_Froge]

the CV12 has 1314hp on dev

[tripod2008]

@AlvisWisla

list of tanks that use such smoke grenades

Well it’s not like it’s specified anywhere if US (modern) tanks are supposed to use L8(-A1 or -A3) M76, M82, or M90 IR obscuring smoke for their 66mm NATO launcher (not that the implemented “generic” grenade even matches with any of them).

And further It’s not like it could really be specified anywhere since we’d need more granularity in most cases than a specified configuration, and date, but also an end user as well since supply is constantly in flux so what was issued at any one point in time would differ between units.

I’ll get around to writing a report about it tomorrow(probably).

[Master_Teaz]

Holy sh- STAY CALM CHALLENGERS MIGHT BE BETTER NOW

[Rambolf]

Ay oh what

[_Froge]

also applies to Khalid! apparently mk.3 was overlooked but its easy to report ig

[Fluffy_Bucketles]

Joy, a better way to enjoy the sensation of pulling my teeth out, now with none of the mess.

[Smin1080p_WT]

Community Bug Reporting System it has now been fixed.

[Rambolf]

Mannthe khalid is probs very goated now lol

[БрИт4нСкUй_П0дС0С]

@_Froge

the CV12 has 1314hp on dev

Can you make a screenshot, pls?

[_Froge]

I’m told the Challenger Mk.3 still has 1200hp?

[Smin1080p_WT]

If confirmed its likely a slip. Can be corrected with an additional report. Likely its due to the previous report that interjected and changed its HP.

[Rambolf]

Man allnwe need is that regerative steering off the swedish spaa