Delta-V is a theoretical value describing rocket motor performance. It does not account for the effects of drag etc.
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Ah ok then, that makes more sense
I’ve been thinking
Due to other nations getting longer range IIR stuff for helis, what could the UK get? I instantly thought of the IIR Mokopa, as it was tested and made (albeit few). Thing is that it has 8km of range, but is still quick and hard hitting. A stretch would be JAGM-MR. They dont have them, but neither did the AH-64E carry them like it does ingame (although I dont mind that by any means)
Is there any other alternative for this? Whether that be UK made or one of the sub trees?
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We could get the wildcat. Sea Venom is IIR, and while intended as an anti-ship missile it is confirmed to have a land attack capability.
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The Martlet missiles on the Wildcat are rumoured to have IR guidance, but there isnt a good enough source for that yet, But I reckon they’ll just give us AH-64E with JAGM-MR and SAL Brimstones next major.
Though I also dont think they can sit on MMW for much longer
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The Wildcat heli as flown with Spikes, and the preproduction South Korean ones flew under British Colours for integration. Can also equip Sea Venom ASHW which has an IIR seeker as mentioned by Flame
There’s also the Indian Nag derivative armed helis, only 7km range, but can come on a number of platforms.
They also have AH-64Es, but no idea as to the planned weapon fit.
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Im aware of this, but I meant to talk about longer range missiles (longer than 8km)
Sorry, forgot to specify that
wish granted
its 11.7
Sea Venom is 20+ km IIRC
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SPIKE NLOS has a range of 32KM apparently.
Ah yeah, Sea Venom on Wildcat only then basically. I’m unaware of any other options, Aussies are going to the AH-64E next, but again nothing on weapons as far as I know. Canada doesn’t operate any AHs of any sort iirc.
At least SRAAM/Taildog god a second life in being the startline for ASRAAM.
was just around a little too early in history
Yeah… But would have been awesome if they entered service and we eventually got an SRAAM Mk2 with IRCCM or something :D
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would have been quite the spicy missile if it had IRCCM
The kiwis operate the penguin on either their seasprites, I have been waiting for them to add it ever since the nords got the missile on the F-5A, 55km range with IR+IOG and IRCCM sounds pretty good to me…
Cant target targets with a radius less than 10 meters or so though
Some cool new stuff has been shown at the first day of DSEI 2025:
Firstly, the new AJAX IFV variant:
- A new unmanned turret fitted with the same 40mm CTA gun as the standard AJAX.
- Troop carrying capacity of 8 dismounts achieved by an extended hull.
- A Javelin/Spike ATGM launcher integrated.
- Iron Fist active protection system as seen on the Challenger 2 Black Night.
- Lots of other smaller changes.
Secondly, the AJAX “BLACKJAX”
The BLACKJAX is an upgraded AJAX, featuring the Iron Fist APS, improved gun elevation up to 85 degrees (to counter drones), a redesigned gun mounting/mantlet and improved rubber tracks.
Thirdly, something small, a new Challenger 3 photo.
The Challenger 3 is being displayed at DSEI 2025, but we have yet to see much info on it as it seems to be in a more exclusive area.
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I can see that turret getting rolled into mainline Ajax production tbh, especially if it’s cheap.
weird tbh, last I heard the BA is quite happy with Boxer atm, apart from considering a turreted variant, I guess this is being offered for export?
Be good for WT though.
Ajax at 10.3, Blackjax at 10.3/.7 as a premium/sqn, then Ajax IFV as a 10.7/11.0 F&F.
Is it only me that finds it really funny they turned an IFV into a LT then back into an IFV?
Ifv version is probs to make up the money from the original being a money sink lol, would be v nice for britain very good top tier candidate
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Now this is the IFV we need for top tier
and this would be good for 10.3/10.7. Does it have a way of tracking said drones?
Damn the CR3 looks good when its not naked
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