Looks to be a recurring trend in the British trees.
Unfortunately… it is.
There are a number of old reports for the Harrier and Tonka id love to see fixed, and now we can also add the Typhoon as well.
It could also carry AIM-9L irl
I don’t think giving it 9L would help too much.
How exactly
well the ir missiles are not the big problem
the whole kit as a whole is, giving it supertemps AND 9l’s would be much better but it wont remain at 12.0 if that happens
so basically compression is still the biggest issue with gameplay and balancing, more news at eleven…
Solution: give FGR.2 SuperTEMP and move down FG.1 to 11.7.
After all, the FGR.2 is supposed to be an improvement
I don’t think we should even touch AIM-9Ls because this thing would be mortally cooked at 12.3 no matter what it has.
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It is. You are extremely heavy in comparison to other phantoms and you turn like a B17 in comparison. You also have more drag due to the external gun. For all of these downsides… you get to go single digit percentages faster which is still not enough to compete with almost any gen4 in terms of strictly speed and acceleration. If anything the current british phantoms have WORSE and LESSER flight models compared to the F-4S and F-4E as the american phantoms fit the meta FAR MORE while still retaining a respectable (VERY RESPECTABLE in the F-4E’s case) speed envelope.
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You are confused though. F-4J and F-4S are the same BR as the FG and FGR.
12.3…
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actually a bit lighter
Then it’s just the gunpod+hard wing causing it to fly like garbage.
The MAIN issue is compression. Once again, great plane in a downtier, horrible in an uptier (which you will get most of the time due to premium spam)
The Skyflashes carry it big time, effectively just use the Phantom as a shotgun at close range and NEVER join a furball, always go for stragglers or anybody who isn’t paying attention to you specifically.
AIM-9Gs are very meh, good for longer range shooting at people who aren’t paying attention or premium players who haven’t figured out they actually need to turn off their reheat in order to use their flares effectively, the Spey Phantom’s radar is pretty reliable I find and the 90 countermeasures is nice, it’s still an ok plane but you need to have experience with them from the beginning when F-4s were added, mainly knowing what targets to pick and who to prioritise.
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Poor Movran must be getting real sick of all us British mains complaining hahaha
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To be fair there are many egregiously useless aircraft in the game, like Tu-4 and PB4Y, but British tree really takes the cake.
and whats really frustrating… all reported and fixable issues.
Take the Hunter F6 and Harrier GR1. DOA aircraft, we’ve been begging for SRAAM fixes for years. They finally do it and oh look, they are good aircraft again.
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These were anything BUT doa…
I still has PTSD for Hunter F.6 and Harrier GR.1 :/
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Dunno about good, GR1 harrier (as all Harrier 1s) is still hit by the diabolically bad flight model. It’s now a usable plane that isn’t a joke, but anyone in anything short of another harrier will just sit on their elevator and end up behind you in two turns. It’d deserve the current BR if the missiles had better side aspect lock angles or the Harrier 1 FM wasn’t so terrible. Right now the other Harrier 1 options are all better. AIM-9G+Flares are just great, even if SRAAM is no longer a joke.
Yeah, but thats where we need Harrier FM fixes. Should be better than the F-5s