British Helicopter Tech Tree - Discussion Topic

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Well DE&S got back to me;

I can confirm that the Wildcat HMA Mk 2 does have an Electronic Support (ES) capability as part of
its Defensive Aids Suite (DAS).
Under Section 16 of the Act (Advice and Assistance) you may find it helpful to note Electronic
Support Measures (ESM) is now frequently termed simply Electronic Support (ES).

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Not just nuclear escalation but naval EC as well!

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See with ESM, and Spike NLOS’ INS-based fly-to-grid targeting system (basically what we have for GPS-guided weapons), it could have been quite potent for SEAD, even without MITL.
But what I imagine we’re getting for now is just going to be a fatter version of the existing heli Spikes, with potential for longer range assuming there’s line-of-sight for the IIR seeker.

Again another reason why we need weapon dependant BR’s

makes me sad it won’t get brimstone, but oh well if it not used operationally then sad times, makes me wish i could tell the british armed forced to use it more than on jets and boats/land vehicles. put it on a helicopter damn it lol

I might be imagining things here, but was ALARM ever tested on a heli? My skull meat seems to think so, but I’m struggling to find anything affirmative online so must just be mistaken.

We have a photo of a ALARM missile body and rail on a Lynx;

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My meat was not mistaken! ALARM on a whirly!

God that looks so goofy and I need it for “fun” reasons 🥲

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So for martlet - actually better warhead than i expected (i don’t know there they magic that penetration out of 76mm rocket) but the rest of the missile its even worse than i expected, and you cannot really lob them and with tiny launch angle… just bring APKWS

FZ275 currently has quite the motor with 875m/s delta V and a HEAT warhead, could go on rooivalk for sure and I’m not sure to trust unsourced wikipedia claim but the Indian helis aswell

edit: for rooivalk since it has press releases from thales belgium

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/56VOHYJaLmnd

Well as I said SNEB managed 400 mm out of a much older 68 mm warhead, so it hardly seems unreasonable by comparison.

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Gaijin continuing the run of not understanding the UK’s helicopter naming conventions, with a peculiar mix of the UK military role designator and the company design scheme name
Screenshot 2026-09-04 183048
Should be called Wildcat HMA Mk.2 in the British tree. AW159 is what Leonardo call it.

Wildcat is added on the statcard, but still treating AW159 HMA.2 as the UK designation and Wildcat as secondary
Screenshot 2026-09-04 183120
Should read AW159 Wildcat HMA.2 there

Export ones I would suppose are optionally called Wildcat or AW159 Mk.### etc. (e.g. Mk.210 for Korea, Mk.220 for Philippines) depending on their preference.

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Chinese are even wackier

The Martlets dont appear to be able to do any damage to any MBT

and the launch box is microscopic

Are door gunners reportable?

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/hdSTkwgTl5c

No

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Don’t worry about the wildcat not having any MIBTs at 12.3 they are just gonna move down the challengers. This has to be the plan right? Right? Right!? RIGHT???

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launch box is exactly same as vikhr - 5 degrees

Then it shouldnt be using C&P figures from the Vikhrs then. Though the Vikhrs slingers get a far larger window than the Martlets

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They get exactly same window. The vikhr launcher just moves. Its same 5 degrees