British guns - they suck

2.48:1 and 3.73:1.
Along with parity kills.
Nice.

I particularly love when German players angle their Tiger to ‘‘take’’ the shell with the armor, forgetting that he exposes his entire crew for the shot ( or the ammunition, that’s explode well too).

I should be 4.0:1 or more if there wasn’t the problem of the turret ring armor issue, having stupid death by overpressure with the American gun or with ‘’ lol pen ‘’ by some wierdos shot by Panther (shot front turret ring again, missing some VOLOMETRIC ARMOR.

Turret armor issue (I use 6pdr HE for the test):

Also by Zenturion (know for the Mk.3, but Mk.2 is the same issue) :

bonus, the Mk 10 :

if i ever take a hit it always wipes out the turret ring

If I ever take a hit, it takes out the turret ring, engine, gun breach, tea maker and half my crew. Even if its just an MG round to the track

What turret ring ?

Nothing just Air and that : you can touch Breech and the trunnion/cradle

Also : Caernarvon isn’t affected by the issue :


my vulcan is still a peashooter

all panthers and tigers are incredibly stable tanks, youre objectively wrong

The whole handling of British vs. Russian Tanks makes me think sometimes if the ( mostly russian, belorussian) developers get regular visits of grey kreml propaganda people reminding them they have relatives back home… honestly.
nothing else can explain that.

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After being insulted by someone that states stuff I agree with…
APDS is easy.

Funny how they bother to model shell shattering for APDS, but not for Russian APHE shells.

It’s a nice thought. It’s more sad to think the devs do this intentionally because this is what they actually think the game should be like.

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APHE shells aren’t just Soviet [they’re not Russian].
Soviet APCR and APDS shatters identically to all others.

I realise that, but they are the primary shell of Russian tanks until they get APFSDS. So it isn’t a coincidence that they are massively overperforming.

Meanwhile the two primary shells of the British, APDS and HESH, are two of the worst performing shells in the game. The solid shot APCBC aren’t much better.

Yes, because the soviet vehicles that use APCR and APDS don’t depend on it, they have APFSDS or APHE that they use as their primary shell instead.

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They’re the primary round until 7.7, then obsolete from 8.3 onward.
I haven’t has issues with APDS since its introduction, but I also got good with American APCR which is far more difficult to work with than APDS ever could be.

The only APDS that was truely nerfed from my experience was the Comet’s. IRL it had a poor chance of penning the panther frontally. Something like 2/5 shots iirc. I don’t recall what distance. Anyways, it’s more realistic now but its a considerably worse tank now.