Are you the one trying to say that the BVM has protection equal to the abrams?
No, that’s a different idiot.
No one is claiming the BVM has equal protection to abrams bar ladies man
I stated over all they are about on par as the abrams has higher firepower, and overall mobility, as well as double the gun depression.
Theres a comprehensive list i put up above that details in what abrams does better.
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That’s nice, but it’s pretty clear that the BVM is just better than any M1 variant. In game of course, in real life it’s performed poorly, but gaijin must have their bias.
Wait till people find out all of Britain’s light recce tanks are missing fairly substantial amounts of armour.
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What?
Abrams advantages over T80BVM :
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reload - abrams is better
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mobility - abrams is better
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round - abrams is better
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turret traverse is the same.
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gun depression and elevation- abrams is better.
this includes using backups
There is one BVM that you can spawn twice
There is
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M1A2 can spawn twice
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M1A2 Sep can spawn twice
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M1A2 Sep V2 which can be spawned twice
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M1A1 HC which can be spawned twice
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M1A1 Click bait if you have it.
All of those tanks have
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the same armour
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same magnifications on optics
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same reload
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same molibity
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they are all functionally identical bar in commander thermal view, and thermal imager quality.
meanwhile the only advantages the BVM has over the abrams are as follows :
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Armour T80BVM has superior armour due to the ERA on it.
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Gun elevation speeds
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top speed by 2kmh , abrams still has overall mobility advantage with reverse speed and traverse speed.
oh , thats it, BVM is objectively worse than the abrams
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Not sure the SEP V2 has the “same armor” as an M1A2 due to the ARAT II package, but I do get the point, as it is a modification you can turn on or off.
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I mean outwith the armour packages, the composite and steels so to speak.
Generally i dont count the TUSK as it doesn’t add much in the way of kinetic protection.
Based on what? Kinetic ERA doing its job means it’s overperforming?
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Rage bait! Get it while it’s hot!
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0.5/10 rage bait.
Bit late to the party here, but british bias is undoubtedly fake. Most of the vehicles in the british tech tree are higher BRs or blatantly worse than their counterparts. A few examples of this include the F-111C (worse A2G, weaker engines, and for a while it could only use 4 AIM-9Ls which got changed recently) at the same BR as the F-111F, the Sherman II is identical to the M4A1 but 3.7 opposed to 3.3, the Challengers are among top tier’s worst tanks- Shoot anywhere but the turret cheeks and it should go through, both parts of the 2 piece ammunition blow up, its abysmally slow and the gun+ reload isn’t great. Britain are one of the worse off nations compared to others- such as the “Supersonic” update, where britain got the Javelin (A subsonic) -correct me if I’m wrong- The prototype javelin creating a sonic boom.
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Don’t forget the solid shot that can’t pen most of its BR, and HESH rounds that do absolutely nothing.
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It’s not ragebait, Relikt is an ERA design dedicated to defeating kinetic penetrators and tandem chemical penetrators alike. Anti-ERA tips, which people love to quote when it comes to kinetic ERA, only worked on earlier kinetic ERA designs like Kontakt-5 and similar designs.
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Exactly Relikt is designed for that purpose whereas NATO tanks incorporate NERA armour arrays into the armour plates. Yet in game they do not function as they should and the argument is always balance.
Well why should Russian Relikt tanks be immune to NATO APFSDS but an M1A2 SEP/2A7 has a much lower shot resistance.
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cuz gaijin is from russia
I dont think it would be particularly good for game balance if NATO tanks were immune to 3BM60…
Like they should be
i mean im pretty sure most are immune to 3bm60 frontally
would be stupid to have the same hull you created in the 70s that cant even resist againts 3bm22
the stuff that it was meant to resist against?
in the 70s?
They should be but arent. 3BM60 is Russias current mass produced Dart.
NATO tanks are designed to defeat a round of that nature.
Vickers at 8.0.
Enough said.