Bit late to the party here, but british bias is undoubtedly fake. Most of the vehicles in the british tech tree are higher BRs or blatantly worse than their counterparts. A few examples of this include the F-111C (worse A2G, weaker engines, and for a while it could only use 4 AIM-9Ls which got changed recently) at the same BR as the F-111F, the Sherman II is identical to the M4A1 but 3.7 opposed to 3.3, the Challengers are among top tier’s worst tanks- Shoot anywhere but the turret cheeks and it should go through, both parts of the 2 piece ammunition blow up, its abysmally slow and the gun+ reload isn’t great. Britain are one of the worse off nations compared to others- such as the “Supersonic” update, where britain got the Javelin (A subsonic) -correct me if I’m wrong- The prototype javelin creating a sonic boom.
Don’t forget the solid shot that can’t pen most of its BR, and HESH rounds that do absolutely nothing.
It’s not ragebait, Relikt is an ERA design dedicated to defeating kinetic penetrators and tandem chemical penetrators alike. Anti-ERA tips, which people love to quote when it comes to kinetic ERA, only worked on earlier kinetic ERA designs like Kontakt-5 and similar designs.
Exactly Relikt is designed for that purpose whereas NATO tanks incorporate NERA armour arrays into the armour plates. Yet in game they do not function as they should and the argument is always balance.
Well why should Russian Relikt tanks be immune to NATO APFSDS but an M1A2 SEP/2A7 has a much lower shot resistance.
cuz gaijin is from russia
I dont think it would be particularly good for game balance if NATO tanks were immune to 3BM60…
Like they should be
i mean im pretty sure most are immune to 3bm60 frontally
would be stupid to have the same hull you created in the 70s that cant even resist againts 3bm22
the stuff that it was meant to resist against?
in the 70s?
They should be but arent. 3BM60 is Russias current mass produced Dart.
NATO tanks are designed to defeat a round of that nature.
Vickers at 8.0.
Enough said.
That olifant at 8.3 doesn’t have any flaws against other 8.3, stab, m111, gun handling and the ztz59d1 is close but not with that gun handling, both them met each other there is no armor so olifant actually has things that matter while others don’t lol
So many sleeper vehicles under that flag.
It’s smart to keep them under the radar by constantly shifting attention to something else.
This can’t be a real thread lol.
Theres sleepers in every tree man, they’re well known to most folks.
vicker mk3 is the sleeper for britain, not the mk1
ZTZ59D is substantailly better in my experience with them both
The fox was put up to 8.0….
Think about any other nations 8.0 light vehicles, most would have but not limited too, high mobility, similar cannon, thermals/better optics, same scouting, better armour, potentially even ATGMs.
Most nations 8.0-8.7 IFVs would get ALL of these.
Yet one little car with a cannon that has a low rate of fire is up at this br simply because too many people where wining that we actually knew how to play the game.
It was never meant to be serious of course. Brits however, do have some great vehicles in some br brackets, like their 8.3s is especially good with a bunch of pesky AAs with great AT ability and a mbt with great ammo and gun handling, the olifant is a 8.7 material but placed at 8.3 for some unknown reasons, also 9.0 the Chieftain MK10 is one of the strongest hull down vehicle that doesn’t actually lack the ability to brawl cqc because in that br where every vehicles outside of T-72 lack hull armor that could stop any ammunitions there so it comes down to who shoot first. Also most people unaware of that MTTD is actually almost having a feature of unmanned turret because of how the turret shape and how low the crews are sitting under them, you are actually safe to engage most enemies when you are in a hull down position without actually risking anything, when played properly the rooikat is actually quite broken lol
Low tier they sucks I agree, mid tier they also sucks, high tier they are very decent, top their they also sucks this one I also agreed.
And its turret traverse got cut in half
While I do enjoy 8.7 britain the olifant is a banger, but its issue is armour, it has next to no survivability.
however with decompression it should set realistically with teh chieftains.
same as that ZTZ59D1 tbh
the Chieftain mk10 should have L23A1 last I chekced, could genuinely pass as 9.3 with that.
Theyre fantastic from about 7.7 to 10.7 then it falls off a cliff xD so yeah good way of saying it man
I’d argue 6.7-10.3, only because Ratels are great and the PS1 Leopard (TTD) is the last “great” tank of the British tree.
I actually think one of the Chieftain can go down to 8.3, if they are going to leave some 8.7s material at 8.3, the ZTZ59D1 has some of the worst gun handling in the game lol it can be worked on but will take you some time, cqc is tricky because you will keep running into situation where you have trouble pointing your crosshair at a moving target, unlike the T-55A and Olifant mk1 the gun handling in comparison is light years ahead.
Also the TTD is basically a Leopard 2A4 without all the extra modules in the turret like stabilizer (whenever you get penned in the turret you have to repair this crap) and no turret basket, in some ways it is easier to do well at 10.3 than Leopard 2A4 at 10.7 lol so the addition of the basket has indirectly buff some vehicles of minor nations.
The only thing I hate is the pole on top of the turret, it gives away my position when I peek over the hill lol all those stuff on the turret are big disadvantage, abrams sep v2 has that useless mg that do more harms than good, t-90m also has it, then one of the challenger has freaking tea table on top of the turret, these things do them no good