Many people like the idea of it being moved down in Br and getting the APDS round removed. I love the APDS rounds and would hate to see them go, but if it means we can get a new spaa with sams like the VERDI-2 or the Alvis Stormer, I would be all for getting the APDS rounds removed.
Nah swingfires gor a removeable sight for the gunner to sit outside and control
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So after some research, yeah it’s supposed to get it. The scope on the swingfire is supposed to be like 3-4 foot above the tank (in the game it’s like 1-2.) But the VERDI-2 commander sight is supposed to extend like 15ft. This Is because all the sight on the VERDI-2 are electronic (cameras.) there were no physical windows.
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I found more info
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BAe CFAM (Common Forward Area Missile) low cost antiarmour and anti-helicopter missile built on the experience BAE gained during work on the British Army’s requirement for a high volocity missile system to supplement the Tracked Rapier. BAe’s entry was the Thunderbolt.
BAe then became involved with Orbita Sistemas Aerospaciais SA in the development of a low altitude SAM system for the Brazilian Army.
CFAM performace put at mach 4, 5000m range. Missile is 60mm in diameter and has overall length of 1.5m. For control it relies mainly on body lift with 4 hot-gas lateral thrusters arranged around the forebody of the spinning missile.
This information was takem from Jane’s Defense Weekly…my problem as it ran over two pages my A4 photocopy does not have the date and page number at the bottom.
Does any one know of the Marconi close air defense weapon (SR-SAM) or the Drop-nose short range missile seen as a replacement for starstreak. ?
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The third of the missiles is MSA-3.1, which Orbita is developing in collaboration with British Aerospace. It is a shoulder-launched surface-to-air high-velocity missile and a further development of the Thunderbolt system originally devised by British Aerospace to meet a British Army requirement.
It is guided by an automatic-command-to-line-of-sight system, through a digital laser link, using a stabilized sight and an auto-tracker which follows the missile’s flare.
The MSA-3.1 missile has a diameter of only 60mm but a length of 1,510mm, most of which is accounted for by its solid propellant motor that gives it a velocity of 1,300m/s, or Mach 3.9, and a maximum range of 6km. The nose of the missile contains a kinetic energy warhead with a tungsten annular cutter. Together with its launch tube the missile has a mass of 12.5kg and the mass of complete system, including the sight and guidance unit is 18.7kg.
So… Make a suggestion. It will be perfect multipurpose anti-tank anti-air missile.
Also some source says its solid non explosive damage, The explosion is used to open SAM to increase the area of damage. So it should have more pen than starstreak, and make big shards splash.
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I think they mean this one
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Forgor what a striker was that ans google was terrible for showing me picks of it when i googled swingfire
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Don’t know if it’s been posted here before but indonesia might have something that could be in the british tree.
It’s a variation of “Poprad”. i.e. grom or piorun missiles attached to a polish modification of the land rover called the “huzar”.
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Its really annoying being in a heavy tank and getting completely mogged by a gepard or falcon because they can just blind you. anything that can just be a spamcanon deserves nerfs into oblivion
I forgot to include the secret projects forum that has the Thunderbolt info you posted.
Outside of that forum, I wasn’t able to find any more info.
That’s awesome
Tbh I think the next SPAA for us is the supacat ASRAAM.
G6 HVM
And probably Rapier somewhere
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i was more thinking after ADATS.
Then G6 still applies. If i were to compare it to anything it would be ITO but better.
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what missile does the G6 use?
(Shameless plug)
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any idea what the target speed is for that envelope
Nope, but envelope for ARH version of the missile has, so probably the same.
Yes, it can also use 2 other variants of the missile, but SAHV-3 is the main one
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Man Devil you really post ur suggestion everywhere XD
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