So another thing is the large caliber secondarys of renown are closed turrets meaning they need direct hits to be killed and I have found generally most crew loss comes for repairing your secondary weapons
On a very different level to the Power Creep end of the tree…(well, mid tier coastal in fact)
How about the new Italian MS444 in its earlier guise as the MTB-424?
A future British
From the future Italian
And lets not forget she was buit in the US as PT-94, then earmarked for transferred to Russia as RPT-10, and only reached Britain following the suspension of arctic convoys, before ending her days in the sunny Mediterranean…thats 4 potential boats for the price of 1.
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I also think the main problem is any experienced player will have no problem just detonating the ship
Renown’s detonation is not as severe as before. Shell’s water traveling has been nerfed, and Renown’s ammo layout has changed. Repulse also has waterline problem of Renown, but well compared to Dunkerque or Amagi, I stop complaining about British ship’s detonation possiblility.
Yeah as far as I’m concerned British ships cannot really be detonated.
Well quite amount of crew were exposed on those unarmored parts.
It was not to eliminate shooting traps but to compensate the heavy added weight by new supersturcture. AON is not always better then distributed armour.
Dev server battle is different from Live server, extremly due to less number of players on naval.
Well one of the things I like renown for is the secondarys in both the aa and 4.25 inch as if done right you can swap between them both and melt light ships
Oh can someone tell me is repulse has a modded radar as while renown should have one it is not modded atm
I don’t have dev server access, but noone i’ve talked to has mentioned it.
I don’t have either
Actually current Repulse modelling is terrible as it don’t satisfy both 1938 and 1941 version.
What Gaijin saids is HMS Repulse(1941) but I’m worrying that they would change it to 1938 version as it is more ‘easier’ for them.
No Oerlikon 20 mm near conning tower.
Her rear 4’’ triple mounts’ placement seems like 1938 version, but she also have Oerlikon 20 mm on third turret.
@Tictaculer It seems no radar, and waterline is just copy paste from HMS Renown.
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Ah also, in current Dev server there is a bug that when you try to launch Walrus from Repulse, game crashed.
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As expected nothing but the best neglect for British naval
My prime issue with her is game-presence, which is what made Renown stand out.
Their offensive and defensive capabilities vs other battleships are relatively irrelevant firstly as they are the same and secondly as they are not fantastic for this due to the slower reload, poor accuracy and somewhat unsatisfactory armour (for 7.0 and also if unangled which further reduces firepower).
But Renown could compensate by having very good anti-cruiser and destroyer capability. Repulse lacks this. Renown has more guns on a broadside (AFAIK but again I haven’t got Repulse to check how it is in-game), with higher RPM (20RPM vs 12RPM), furthermore Renown’s secondaries are enclosed and finally the shells are superior.
Repulse’s 4" has 51mm of penetration at 5km which means you will not scratch a cruiser at ranges much higher than that, Renown’s has 71mm which means you can remain relevant to a decent distance. Assuming you ignore the HE due to presence of anti-fragmentation armour Repulse just loses out and if you factor it in, well then Renown has 2.3kg TNT per shell, Repulse has 0.7, so 1/3rd.
I don’t think Repulse will be abysmal. But I don’t see her being particularly strong, and I can see myself using Marlborough over her.
I personally would take a revenge class as it would have been a different class of ship
I also feel that if it was a premium ship she would have definitely been a 6.7 as it is very similar case to the Japanese top premium ship
Recently with Barham I’m thinking British 15’’ ship needs to be fast brawler to compensate it’s bad dispersion so I’m huge -1 to Revenge class. Small -1 to QE class as they are similar slow ship, but at least they could have chance of hydroplane.
Man I really needs hydroplane especially in domination so many battle ruined by early captures. It’s also the reason why I greets HMS Repulse. Of course she’s not the best we could get, but not the worst we coul get imo.
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Well both valiant and QE her self had the same float plane along with the greater secondarys and I believe they could use the supercharged shells. But I may be wrong on that
But the fact the dispersion can and should be fixed is the main thing
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All those compartments include about 20~30% crew in total
No, Renown’s armour had been upgraded in its 1920s refit already, when her superstructure had not been reconstructed. The 1938 reconstruction saw only minor change to the armour, mostly replacement of HT steel with the NC armour while the thickness remains the same. It was also the reason why Renown was put in the priority of receiving a major reconstruction in the 1930s, as her armour scheme was considered more advanced, therefore possessing a greater potential without having another major alternation to the armour to be a capable high speed capital ship than her sister.
Repulse’s armour upgrade on the other hand, was more of a rushing bandage fix following the serious concern on the ship’s protection after Jutland.
I tested in my own user missions where ships can fire ridiculous amounts of shells on each other to get a sufficient sample size. In terms of machinery protection both ships are somewhat similar, while magazine protection wise Renown is much much more reliable.
A good thing of Repulse was that many mistakes of armour scheme that presented on Renown, for example the missing slope deck extension below the main belt, has been corrected on her. I will try to push and see if they can fix Renown’s armour soon as many corrections can be simply copied from Repulse.
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