well it is the fact it will have no AA when they could have given it the refit which added the float plane and 2 octuple 40mm’s and some 50 cal’s
To be fair, that would be adding insult to injury by adding both a new ship, and having it be better in every way than the existing TT ship. As then Barham would receive additional deck armour to attempt to reflect the lessons of Jutland and also improved AA refit, and floatplanes which hood wouldn’t have.
I have very mixed emotions, on one hand, thank god it’s not Warspite or QE, on the other hand, why are we not getting a TT QE first, they could have added Oktober Revolutsiya which would be a Gangut of which there are 2 in-game, on the other hand at least is had poor AA, but on the other hand from that all ships should be added with good AA if possible otherwise why add them at top tier, and finally but its historical which is cool.
So just about a net positive.
(As a side note I find it funny that they learned at Jutland you need to protect against diving shells, and then went for relatively flat arcs and high velocity on the Nelson’s particularly after designing superheavy shells and 16.5" for the G 3)
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Yeah, I’m rather disappointed about that, I’ve been looking forward to her. She showed up on a reliable leak list months ago, and would be a perfect event choice.
well the 2 main one’s you want are Queen Elisabeth and valiant as they have the best AA set ups of the class and they have the 114mm secondarys as on renown in game in there late war refits
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I want QE as class leader and also has good AA, and Warspite as she is the only one with a unique refit, retaining some of the 6" guns which are much better for dealing with ships with thicker armour and can do some actual damage at long-range vs other capital ships’ secondaries particularly the Germans who armoured their secondary batteries quite a lot.
Warspite also is well Warspite.
Theoretically I should want Valiant but I only see us getting a maximum of two so those would be my picks.
Valiant is my namesake though so I kinda want her too.
She also would not have taken away from the British tree or the Russian tree when the British tree could actually really do with it.
But I’ll save my full-on moaning until after the dev stream when all the vehicles are released, hopefully Gaijin add another refitted QE by then.
britain has so many ships to add with 5 revenge class ships 5 QE ships 5 kgv’s and a few more others
Funny this is as one of our squidron officer pointed out earlier that they changed some of the writing on the devblog as it was written to be having 102 mm HA HAA & a floatplane but cut it out.
I do wish it would come with those.
welp once again russia getting another “paper” ship nice to see cant wait for all the british paper ships
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There’s loads that would still be relevant at higher brs, 5 KGV 1911, 5 QE, 5 R’s, 2 Nelsons, 5 KGV 1938, 1 Vanguard, 2 Lions (minimum as they made guns for later versions), and I think up to 3 G3’3 but at least one.
Plenty of nations have incomplete ships, and Izmail is a very sensible addition right around now, tech/era-wise.
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I don’t even know what Gaijin is cooking here.
I don’t even care about paper as all nations benefit eventually including the UK significantly with G 3, and then also there are ships who began construction in other ways like the Minotaur 1947 and the Later Lion’s.
If they’d added Dreadnought’s to France or Italy I wouldn’t be complaining, but seriously. No Dunk/Stras and no Normandie for the French, no Franc Carraciolo for the Italians. No QE or R for the UK…
But they have time to model a paper laid down battlecruiser for the Russians at top tier where they already have 3 ships, and a battlecruiser for Germany (though of course its lower down and I would love to see the Kaiserliche Marine represented). And there is still the question of Amagi.
But like… who is doing their modelling, are the studios assigned to Japanaese, Russian and German ships just better or something?
Or are the ones assigned to British, French and Italian ones just slacking?
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She definitely fits the era well and indeed she’s an interesting (if unbalanced) ship, I just don’t really understand what happened to the models for British ships (selfish of me I know).
Like did somebody run off with them at this point?
Just what is going on Gaijin.
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i know that but russia is not currently in need of additions to there bluewater but britain has quite a few ships that are on par with the current top tier ships ie. the revenge class and the QE class which could have been slowly added over the past year or so but have not till now with the event
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It is good.
What would be better is if we got a guarantee that we’d get Warspite/QE at some point
Let’s be fair, anything Russian of any decent size that’s Naval may as well be considered “paper”
I mean, if you can’t even look after a battleship that you were lent for 5 years, yeah uh, I’m doubting your ability to build a battleship.
Well Royal Soverign was at terrible state even since when British lend it to her. It is not Soviet Navy’s main fault.
Your own bias of calling launched battlecruiser as ‘paper’.
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Last I checked we didn’t give the Russians a battleship that couldn’t even traverse its own guns. Unlike the Royal Sovereign when she was returned to us.
If they didn’t like the condition she came in, I’m sure the Soviet Navy would’ve been happy to return it, and the Royal Navy would’ve quite happily taken it back. We found it was an excellent Warship and off the top of my head she had been serving quite happily escorting convoys for the previous 4 years.
Also, why do you think we scrapped it the moment she came back from Russia?
Ah yes an incomplete warship. It may as well be paper, look at Sovetsky Soyuz. Try and build a battleship/battlecruiser, then turn around and realise they can’t actually build/manufacture the required level of armour in the specification.
I’m sorry, it’s not my fault the Soviet, and now Russian Navy continue to paint a picture of blissful ignorance, incompetence and outright stupidity for the most part. Go look up Moskva if you’re not convinced. Either you’re telling me the Russian Navy lost a Cruiser with three tiered air defence to 2 missiles, or they lost her to storms or flooding.
As for the Soviet Navy, their only “success” was sinking German Merchant shipping (and causing one of the worst maritime disasters in history), occasionally scurrying out to escort Arctic Convoys, and against the Japanese Fleet. That would be impressive if it weren’t for the fact that that was in August 1945. When most of Japan’s Navy was sat at the bottom off the Phillippines, Iwo Jima, Midway, etc etc.
You know, unlike the Russians, the Royal Navy could actually build, service, and maintain large warships.
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It’s already more than 30 years old ships. Even QE class in better conditions got scrapped right after the war. Similar happens to standard battleships of USN. Don’t blame USSR Navy for natural consequences.
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What, so given what you’re saying the moment every ship becomes 30 the gun turrets should be rusted in place? Mmmmm nice and believable there
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