It was not ‘predominantly’ based off the EAP. Germany already had it’s own ideas for the Eurofighter, the TKF-90.
Not to be rude, but this didn’t fly and was considered unsuccessful, it also shared relatively few designs with the finalised Eurofighter and had more major differences than similarities, you could argue its design influenced the Eurofighter post-EAP but to argue the EAP wasn’t the foundation aircraft for the Eurofighter is honestly ridiculous, I was very careful with my choice of the word predominantly because I’m aware of the TKF-90 and other designs from MBB.
EAP tested the majority of the technologies that would go on to be used on the Typhoon, I’d be more than happy to share a few design breakdowns I have seen from America, France, Germany and the UK tomorrow when I next log on.
You seem to think that without Britain, Germany and Italy would be stumbling around Eurofighter program like idiots, it is insulting. The EAP’s purpose was to test some fundamental fly-by-wire and aerodynamic principles that would go on to inform the Eurofighter’s design but otherwise the EAP shares little in common with the Eurofighter. It doesn’t use the Eurofighter’s engines, radar, weapons, avionics and even airframe with its cranked instead of straight delta, different tail, different intakes, lack of strakes and so on. The EAP did nothing more than put some aeronautical principles that were already well understood by European aircraft manufacturers into practice.
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Definitely not, you can see the commonality of the design in other areas, many of the EF’s primary features were pioneered by BAe on EAP though.
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I’m still hoping that we’ll see the TSR 2 come at the same time as the A-5 and the Mirage IV.
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The issue is that it never carried, nor was it intended to carry, a radar, which means it cannot guide Skyflash. Even still, it can make do with just four ASRAAMs, they’re pretty potent missiles one their own. It would be an interesting, albeit barely usable, event vehicle.
I see a lot of people both on the forums and in other media who are of the opinion that the UK has very little left to add, which simply isn’t the case. On the old forums, there is a huge list (linked below) that shows that there is much more left to add, and it’s incomplete. The only gap I can think of would be at higher BRs, but I’m certain that a Typhoon developmental aircraft can be added to fill in that need.
They denied that sadly
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Yep, thats the entire point of this thread. We have so many unique aircraft left to be added, and thats not including variants
The lists of previously suggested vehicles from the old forums feel a lot like a graveyard nowadays with all those vehicles that were passed for consideration now stuff in limbo
Not the EAP, there were about three prototype Typhoon aircraft of the DA series which the UK built and tested, including DA2, which was powered by RB199s and had AIM-9L and AIM-120Bs. Basically imagine a hotrod F-16 with better radar, could go at a higher BR to balance, but in my opinon, it’s not that much of an improvement over either the F-16, MiG-29 or any potential F-15 or Su-27 variant at that BR.
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For better and for worse we have to re-do all of those suggestions from the start.
The bad thing is that it’s a ton of work.
The good thing is that the devs actually seem to be paying attention to more suggestions recently, so it could be used as an opportunity
Most reckon they’d still be around BR13. I personally think they’d be fine at 12.7. But either way, the biggest problem is that we wont even get DA2 considered until AFTER other nations have equal or better. Meaning most nations will probably on 13s By mid next year and we might get a DA2 in the same update others get 13.3s
Yeah, but that’s less about vehicle capability and more about other nations getting preferential treatment.
In all honesty though, Gaijin has no excuse, the SHAR FA.2 and Tornado F.3 would be extremely balanced vehicles to introduce AMRAAMs on.
I was hoping for FA2 in September as a test platform for AMRAAM, could have also come to the AV-8B+s as well. Given 3 months of testing on sub sonic gen 3s.
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They denied any Typhoon airframe coming soon, DA variants included otherwise believe me we would’ve leapt upon it like dogs.
Its predecessor was slated to carry Foxhunter and they’re a family of aircraft, its a loose argument but the radome was designed to be able to fit in a Foxhunter sized radar, with the flight data-recorder instead taking that place. This isn’t actually the issue with the proposal, primarily its the intent although carrying weighted mock-ups is proof they at least considered it its apparently too loose.
There’s not really much else that you could use to prove it though, I was told the design study would have had it use the Tornado’s avionics package (Radar, RWR etcetera), on that airframe but although EAP is no longer classified, you have to request the information on it, which takes a while.
If I ever get the design study which was apparently ‘extremely favourable’ I will be sure to give it to Gaijin.
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Short list of things I found while poking around that I think would be fun but also not redundant. Will be updating over time.
Short S.45 Seaford - Basically an upgunned, faster Sunderland with more bomb load
Mosquito FB.42 - prototype Australian conversion of Mosquito FB.40 with Merlin 69 engines with more power and tuned for higher altitudes
I don’t actually have a picture or serial number of this plane, so normal RAAF Mosquito for illustration
Canberra B(I)8 - Similar to the interim B(I)6, but a dedicated variant with a revised cockpit and rocket pods
Canberra B.15 - Similar to B(I)6 but without the cannons and AS.30 missile capability
Tempest MkI - aerodynamically clean Tempest allowing for the fastest speeds ever for the type, although the raw power to weight is lower
Sea Mosquito TR.33 - Similar to FB variants with machine guns replaced with a search radar, torpedo bomber capability and RATOG
Venom FB.1 (VV612) - Venom fitted with reheat intended for but never used on Venom NFs, estimated 30% increase in static thrust on Ghost
Lightning F.2 - Lightning unburdened by weight increases found on F.6, choice of 2 nose mounted ADEN and 2 Firestreak or four nose mounted ADEN
(Presumably those Firestreaks are drill rounds because it was either Firestreaks or four cannons. Picture shows overall shape of F.2 well and shows bottom cannon location)
Bristol Bisley - prototype ground attack conversion of the Blenheim, good low tier option (suggesiton on new forum inside)
F-111K - partially constructed F-111 for the RAF. IMO the TSR.2 is a great plane but not a direct counterpart to the F-111 like was said in the original post (suggestion link inside)
Sea Vixen FAW.1 - Because we need a tech tree version
Brigand TF.1 - early Brigand with effectively the same loadouts as the current one, plus a .50 caliber dorsal gunner and provision for a torpedo
Buckingham B.I - predecessor to the Brigand, medium bomber with dorsal, ventral, and fixed forward guns with up to 4,000 lbs of bombs
Hawker P.1081 - swept wing derivative of the Sea Hawk with a much higher top speed, provision for 20mm cannon
Supermarine Type 510/517/528/535 - Predecessor to the Swift, supposedly had provision for wing mounted 20mm cannons but that's a little iffy
Type 517 pictured
Gloster F.9/40 (DG204/G) - A few online sources refer to this as the "F.9/40M" but it doesn't seem official. Meteor prototype with axial-flow Metrovick F.2 engines underslung beneath the wings
Hawker Fury (LA610) - The fastest piston-powered fighter ever made by Hawker, and one of the fastest of all time. Based on the Tempest with an aerodynamically clean front housing a 3,000 horsepower Sabre engine.
Vampire FB.31 - similar to the prototype Vampire F.2 previously mentioned in this thread but with fighter-bomber capability, Australian Vampire powered by the 5,000 lbs thrust Rolls-Royce Nene.
Sea Venom FAW.22 - Sea Venom with more powerful Ghost 105 engine, AI.22 search/track radar, and (supposedly) Firestreak integration. The only Firestreak armed Sea Venoms I've seen are FAW.21s using them for trials though
Harrier GR.5 - Harrier II airframe without guided bomb capability or BOL rails, AIM-9L max, simpler RWR/ECM system
Harrier GR.9A - Harrier II with the uprated engine of the AV-8B+, Brimstone AGMs and (ideally) SNIPER targeting pod
Hawker P.1067 - Prototype Hunter, would have lower velocity ADEN Mk.1s (think MK108 but ADEN rate of fire) (suggestion link inside)
Valiant B.2 - prototype Valiant with much more powerful engine and excellent low level speeds of up to 1,030 km/h, however lacks countermeasures
CF-100 Canuck Mk.4B - Indigenous Canadian jet fighter armed with eight .50 caliber machine guns, rocket pods and engines with reheat
Hurricane Mk.V - Prototype Hurricane with a 1,700 hp engine optimized for low level flight. Same ordnance as the Hurricane Mk.IV with the 7.7mm machine guns being proposed to be replaced by Hispano cannon
Bristol Type 123 - early 30's prototype biplane with exceptional speed and handling. Excellent reserve tier addition
Hawker Tornado - prototype aircraft meant to supplement the Typhoon, one armed version powered by a Centaurus radial
Maryland Mk.II - Martin 167 with supercharged engines
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I might be wrong but isnt the sea vixen a Premium purely because it would be hard to play for regular players?
Due to it only having mid missiles at best
The lack of gun was always my guess, especially at a BR where most are use to still gun fighting
Though I do agree, we need a TT version, I want those intergrated rocket pods
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