Britain Air Forces

[Rileyy3437]

I hope so too,
I still want that RCAF sub-tree.

[oom1992]

@Rileyy3437

@SlowHandClap

For balancing reasons there is no reason they can’t give the Gripen 9Ms and 7Ms. Any plane capable of carrying AMRAAMs is most likely going to be capable of 7F/Ms.

Gripen A (early) can use SKYFLASH. Any variant with anything but the PS/05 MK.1 radar cannot under any circumstances guide a SARH missile. If sparrows had data-link it could but there was no point in that given AMRAAM became dirt cheap after the US mass produced it. Gripen A (late) had the PS/05 MK.2 without a CW illuminator and the Gripen C’s all use the PS/05 MK.3 which also lacks one.

Its’s debatable in itself if the Gripen A can guide SARH’s because the only mention of SKYFLASH come from the initial project specifications and a magazine released just before the Gripen entered service but around 5 years before AMRAAM entered full-scale production.

Oh I just know Gripen A (Early) equipped PS-05/A Mk.1 radar, used Skyflash (SARH) & can guide SARH BVR but not sure it might be Skyflash Temp or Skyflash SuperTemp ?

@Rileyy3437

Does anyone have a link to a Gaijin employee explaining how the F-16AJ fits into the game (ie how it satisfies the criteria).

I think i’m gonna make that F-14(UK) proposal because when I mentioned it on reddit during the EAP fiasco it was a very, very popular comment.

On the other hand I expect it to be very unpopular here.

F-14A (UK) different from F-14A Early & F-14A Late (USN) ?

[FHX_Beaver]

With an F18 radar in game the f18 is closer than we think.

[Rileyy3437]

@oom1992

Oh I just know Gripen A (Early) equipped PS-05/A Mk.1 radar, used Skyflash (SARH) & can guide SARH BVR but not sure it might be Skyflash Temp or Skyflash SuperTemp ?

Yeah so Gripen A might have had it as a stopgap until AMRAAM entered service. When the Gripen was being designed the AMRAAM wasn’t even around and then it was delayed. It would be the Swedish version of Skyflash so the same as the one on the Viggen D as they served together.

@oom1992

F-14A (UK) different from F-14A Early & F-14A Late (USN) ?

Never was bought, however it would be the same as the F-14A Late or the F-14B (the UK only wanted a fighter we didn’t care if it was a Tomcat or Bombcat because the Harrier and Tornado could do strike missions). Basically the same as the one’s in-game but definitely with AIM-7M and AIM-9L or even AIM-9M.

[oom1992]

I guess Gripen A (Early) could add in rank 8 for sweden tech tree, located after JA37C Viggen and before JA37D Viggen with Rb.99 (AIM-120B) & Gripen C (Early) (PS-05/A Mk.3 radar) in rank 8 but Gripen A mounted Rb.71 (Skyflash Temp) like JA37 Viggen ?

I don’t mind Grumman Tomcat (Royal Navy) as a air superiority fighter, and no guided Air-to-Ground ordinance & targeting pod

[Rileyy3437]

I’d have Gripen A as its initial in-service aircraft so mostly just a fighter at 11.7 with Skyflash PS/05 MK.1 and AIM-9L as well as some dumb bombs. It would have the same armament as the JA37D currently in-game but with a better radar, higher T/W and better flight performance so it would have to go after the first one, but before the one with AMRAAM.

Gripen C would have PS/05 MK.3 with AMRAAM and AIM-9L but it could have used AIM-9M so I expect it to receive those.

@oom1992

I don’t mind Grumman Tomcat (Royal Navy) as a air superiority fighter, and no guided Air-to-Ground ordinance & targeting pod

Yes I’d have it be the cheapest Tomcat because that’s what the RAF were looking for, the cheapest possible variant. So although the F-14B was offered, they would have wanted a second-hand F-14A as it was cheaper. But the F-14 wasn’t wired for Skyflash so it would essentially have the same missiles as the F-14B, but with the A2G ordinance of the F-14A (early).

[Rileyy3437]

I’ve started my F-14K post, not sure how long it will take, probably not too long, its a lot easier to research than ships and the BAE EAP.

Does anyone know how to use spoilers though?

[Texas_Engineer_Mike]

@oom1992

I guess Gripen A (Early) could add in rank 8 for sweden tech tree, located after JA37C Viggen and before JA37D Viggen with Rb.99 (AIM-120B) & Gripen C (Early) (PS-05/A Mk.3 radar) in rank 8 but Gripen A mounted Rb.71 (Skyflash Temp) like JA37 Viggen ?

Foldered with Gripen C ***

[oom1992]

@Texas_Engineer_Mike

@oom1992

I guess Gripen A (Early) could add in rank 8 for sweden tech tree, located after JA37C Viggen and before JA37D Viggen with Rb.99 (AIM-120B) & Gripen C (Early) (PS-05/A Mk.3 radar) in rank 8 but Gripen A mounted Rb.71 (Skyflash Temp) like JA37 Viggen ?

Foldered with Gripen C ***

Gripen A (Early) with PS-05/A Mk.1 radar could be folder with Gripen C (Early) with PS-05/A Mk.3 radar but after JA37D Viggen (12.3 BR) equipped Air-to-Air Missile full options ?

@Rileyy3437

I’d have Gripen A as its initial in-service aircraft so mostly just a fighter at 11.7 with Skyflash PS/05 MK.1 and AIM-9L as well as some dumb bombs. It would have the same armament as the JA37D currently in-game but with a better radar, higher T/W and better flight performance so it would have to go after the first one, but before the one with AMRAAM.

Gripen C would have PS/05 MK.3 with AMRAAM and AIM-9L but it could have used AIM-9M so I expect it to receive those.

@oom1992

I don’t mind Grumman Tomcat (Royal Navy) as a air superiority fighter, and no guided Air-to-Ground ordinance & targeting pod

Yes I’d have it be the cheapest Tomcat because that’s what the RAF were looking for, the cheapest possible variant. So although the F-14B was offered, they would have wanted a second-hand F-14A as it was cheaper. But the F-14 wasn’t wired for Skyflash so it would essentially have the same missiles as the F-14B, but with the A2G ordinance of the F-14A (early).

I guess it might be Tomcat FG.1 (F-14A) & Tomcat FA2 but don’t know great britain interested Grumman F-14 from US Navy

[Mytho-GR1]

by the way if it was a saaf gripen it would have to be a premium

@Headnaught

I think you’re misinterpreting the statement (to be fair, Gaijin’s wording isn’t very good here.) What they’re saying is that since British air already has five tech lines, they wouldn’t make a whole new subtree line like with South Africa’s ground forces. The “premium and squadron vehicle” thing doesn’t necessarily mean they’re going to add them as premiums to other tech trees, just that they weren’t interested in adding South African aircraft as researchable vehicles.

[oom1992]

I guess gajin might consider add premium pack pre-order aircraft rank 8 (11.3-12.7 BR) after introduced rank IX (9)

[Rileyy3437]

Anyone willing to proof-read my proposal before i submit it, I do have it saved in-case it disappears however i want to ensure i got the tone ‘right’ plus it might be a bit boring.

[TyphoonCro]

To me personally
CF-18 makes most sense
There is Canadian ADATS in ground tech tree and CF-18 would be one of more capable jets at top tier

It would be slower than F-16s but would make up for in AoA and A2G ordnance.
At least something before Eurofighters.

[Mytho-GR1]

i think sa has been ruled out so cf18 is most likely if not domestic

[Mytho-GR1]

i would if i was good at writing

[Headnaught]

To be fair, plans can change. This was a statement from over a year ago. In the current game state, I would personally be very surprised if the SAAF Gripen were added as anything but tech tree.

[Rileyy3437]

Hahaha, I had to put a lot of mental interest to be good at writing, I often pre-empt an argument which comes across as stand-offish, i had to write it as I wanted it, and now I am rewriting parts.

[Rileyy3437]

If i was to use and un-orthodox F-16AJ precedent for the F-14K what are the chance’s I would likely have to send my proposal to someone such as yourself for direct review and moderation?

Oh and to chip onto that I agree with you on the SAAF Gripen.

[Headnaught]

@Rileyy3437

If i was to use and un-orthodox F-16AJ precedent for the F-14K what are the chance’s I would likely have to send my proposal to someone such as yourself for direct review and moderation?

A suggestion for a British F-14 would constitute a fictional vehicle, so the suggestion wouldn’t be accepted no matter how well written it is. The addition of the F-16AJ doesn’t mean that similar vehicles meet our suggestion criteria.

[Rileyy3437]

I see, so this is a decision only Gaijin can make?

Essentially it is okay for it to be suggested for the Japanese as it was an internal suggestion however it is not open for external proposals?

In that case is there a method of passing this over as a suggestion to one such individual who would be able to make such an internal suggestion?