Huh thanks very much for the rundown, that’s really enlightening.
Going back to the AIM-120 I’ve figured out what new SPAA is coming to the US
If you want to talk about it there’s 2 separate thread for this system:
Interesting system but a bit outside the topic.
Can’t you see the wings
What wings?
Speaking of American anti-air is there any threads about the ADATS?
The gun depression doesn’t seem to be enough. Only -5° seems too low.
Gaijin not add new fighter aircraft toptier at 1st line for 3 years after F-4M Phantom FGR.2 from update Update 1.93 “Shark Attack” october 2019
Currently great britain tech tree missing multirole fighter like 5 countries
So I expect gaijin consider multirole fighter toptier at 12.7 BR from RAF or IAF or RCAF close to F-16C Block 50 (USAF), MiG-29SMT (9-19R) (Russian Air Force), F-16D Block 40 Barak (IAF/IDF), Mirage 2000-5F (French) and F-16A Block 20 MLU (ROCAF) at rank VIII in next month
or a harrier with aim120
Sea Harrier FA.2 it’s strike fighter and located under F-4K Phantom FG.1 97%
Yep, that’s where it would go and the FA2 is where my money is at at the moment. But It could be about a dozen aircraft, until we get leaks and datamines we just have no idea what it might be. Not even a guarantee its going to be a fighter. Only that it’s “top tier” which has no clearly defined definition
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4 years gajin not add new fighter aircraft toptier for great britain tech tree after major update “Shark Attack” since october 2019
I expect dev could add supersonic Multirole fighter 12.7 BR close to F-16C Block 50, MiG-29SMT (9-19R), Mirage 2000-5F, F-16I Sufa & F-16A Block 20 MLU and good maneuvrability
I mean FGRs got a s***load of updates since then. It’s not like they used the same aircraft for 4 years
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I still would like it to have the 540lb WT community bombs
And some other stuff it can get.
AGM-12’s and the wing Skyflash pylons.
IIRC integration of those was cancelled.
Britain removed the missile wiring to the wing pylons to save weight, so that won’t happen unfortunately.
Originally the Tejas had the R-60 to be homologated, thing that was partially done, but abandoned as soon as the requirement changed to the R-73 (wing had to be reinforced due to the weight difference of both missiles). Years later the Python V was homologated and there are plans to also add the ASRAAM (and an indigenous version of it or something like that) to its armament choices, although this last ones are still plans for the future …
As for the long range missiles…the navy (who wanted a naval version of the LCA) issued a requirement that the LCA had to use the Elta 2032 + the Derby BVRAAM that the Indian harriers had, on the other hand the air force wanted to integrate the R-77 and the indigenous astra missile (thing that only very recently was accomplished) . The R-77 was never integrated and the air force had to content with the Israeli Derby…only recently (this year) the Astra was homologated.
As for capabilities, i think the missiles choices are quite potent, specially knowing that the Astra Mk.1 is on par with the R-77 (it was developed from it… it even uses the same seeker)
Some pics
R-60
R-77 displayed with the first technology demonstrator
Python V
Derby and R-73
Astra Mk.1
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yeah
The F-5C never carried flares, the German MiG-29 never carried the R-27E, the MiG-23ML couldn’t use the R-24, and the Yak-41M never existed. I think there’s a chance.
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but it is British
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For reference regarding the FOX 3 missile available on the TEJAS
Max range:
Derby : 70/75 km
R-77: 80km
ASTRA MK1: 110 km in head on chase mode at 15km (90km for maneuverable target)
Maneuvrability:
ASTRA MK1: 35/40G
R-77: 40G
Derby: 40/50G
Seeker:
Derby: Active radar seeker with 12km range against fighter jet (poor ECCM)
R-77: 9B-1348 seeker with 16 km range for a medium size target (5M^2 RCS)
ASTRA MK1: Active radar seeker with 13-15km range for a 5^m Rcs target.
So those missile are pretty close in capabilities, you either get shorter range but greater maneuvrability (Derby) or longuer range and poorer maneuvrability (ASTRA MK1) or a mix or both (R-77)
For reference regarding the FOX 2 missile available on the TEJAS:
Max range:
R-73 : 30km
PYTHON 5: 40km
ASRAAM: 50km
Maneuvrability:
ASRAAM: 50/70G without TVC
R-73 : 55/60G with TVC
PYTHON 5: 70G without TVC (Lag pursuit)
Seeker:
R-73: MK-80 seeker with 2-element. 45° Gimbal limit before launch, 75° Gimbal limit after launch.
ASRAAM: Imaging seeker with 128128 pixels with 90° gimbal.
PYTHON 5: Imaging seeker dual waveband with 320240 pixel, 100° Gimbal limit.
*All of the classment were done from worst to best.
*Max range values are only an indication since we don’t know in what parameters those range are for.
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like suits the role that we are lacking without it just being copy and paste
Thanks for the data!
Yep, its quite “potent” haha