yeah it’s bad, I’m looking foward to chieftains…sigh
Chieftains don’t really differ a lot from the Conqueror imo. All the Chieftains are playable, but so is the Conqueror, they’re all tanks meant to be played hull down/sniping. Bad mobility and bad armour (besides turret), means you are slower than any medium tanks at that battle rating so you can’t get too offensive/agressive because someone else will already be in that said position. If you play any of Chieftains or Conqueror for that matter in a place with zero coverage you are playing it wrong in terms of how it handles itself in game, sure it can be done, but a single shot to your hull and you’re out, while if you play it hull down, the enemy will not be able to kill you as your turret is very strong, generally speaking.
It wasnt until i got to Chieftains that I started enjoying Britain ground again. I hated BR6 & 7.
I cant tell you why I prefered it, but I just felt it was better. Perhaps just less BS tanky things it encountered and so APDS just worked better? I dont know. But I personally think the peek on the tree is the Challenger Mk3 / DS. So looked forward to those
Personally the Conqueror upper front plate is pretty good too. With the add-on armour it’s 150mm + 14mm. It’s only the lower plate that needs to be hidden.
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You’re not wrong there, but the lower plate is large and any good player will shoot you there, so its better to stay hidden imo, so playing hull down makes it perfect for the conqueror.
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The Conq could be a faboulus heavy at 7.7 with its LFP and turret top weakspots, only if APDS would be reliable. Its not reliable post pen. the RNG is ridiculous on it.
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The British tank lineups suffer from the curse of being designed, mostly, in the real world by engineers aware of the real world production limitations of their industry, and that the tank would need to be crewed by actual soldiers who have actual human bodies. There’s also the fantasy shell performance where APHE is a perfect and godly round and solid shot/APDS can barely kill a single crewman post-pen.
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Eh, while I’m not saying that Soviet Heavies don’t suck (I’ve lost count of how many have been on the receiving end of my shots) the Conker having a Mantlet that you can somehow troll with 122mm APHE is just a bit garbage.
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It’s definitely bugged, I remember shooting it there and only the driver dying somehow. Did anyone report it?
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never did in the end, iirc it was some spurious Gaijinista report that decreed that the Conker mantlet was wrong, and tbh i’ve had it happen so rarely (off the top of my head, that one instance) I just never bothered.
At least the gun is decent, less shatter BS I guess…Imo conqueror should receive an ammo buff to make the performance similar to the 105 mm of leopard 1 at 8.0, Tiran 4s etc, I wouldn’t be op imo because of the long reload
Opinions I guess, and while I respect yours I do not agree with it.
I’ve played the Conqueror in 84 matches (Spaded), 55% winrate (46 wins), sitting on 104 tanks destroyed and 68 deaths. The gun is decent, the ammo itself isn’t great in terms of post damage since its an APDS shell but there’s almost no tanks in the Conqueror BR that you cannot pen from front so you’re quite strong given your weaponry, you can even one shot most stuff, the reload is obviously terrible therefore why I said it shouldn’t be played in frontline or to brawl. Its obviously no Leopard or Tiran 4 but then again the Conqueror is sitting at 7.7 not 8.0 which makes it the “sweet spot” not getting uptiered versus 9.0 tanks (TAM, Leopard A1A1, etc).
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I agree, i love playing the conqueror in sim battle, i find that using the commander fire control makes it easier to make accurate shots because of its positioning. It is also harder for others to just shoot your lower glacis bc of gunner optic positioning sometimes.
Holy skill issue batman. Literally one of the best lineups in the game.
yeah but it get’s uptiered into 8.7 constantly so it’s mid at best.
Composite armor, better rounds, you get lolpenned by anything anywhere, lrf, etc…
In a downtier it’s pretty good though, minus the abysmal reload time that makes the Caernarvon 1000 times better.
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Why do you have issues in up tiers? Nothing (exaggeration) at that Br has armor anyways, and you already have stabilizer. What is to desire? If you aim carefully, you should be able to kill every single 8.7 tank frontally
Nothing has armor? T-55, T10, M60, T95, etc.
You face them all the time, they lolpen you, you have to actually aim for their weakspots all the time.
Plus, the Hesh is ass so don’t even try to take out light tanks with them so you have to shoot 2 apds at best to dispatch them if you don’t hit ammo on 1st hit, which can be hard since they move all the time anyways.
Can we stop pretending that things are fine when they’re not?
Yeah, you can do shit in an uptier, but you have to do all the work, while most poeple delete you by looking at you.
I still do good in the tank, I have like a 2.0 ratio in it cause I’m not an idiot, still, I don’t want to be sweating all the time to use something.
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Fair enough I suppose
Sorry I was wrong on the ratio, it’s about 1.5 in the conqueror and 2.0 in the Caervarnon.
You’re not bad either with them in your stats but it shows that they are hard to use;
Thanks :) they can be frustrating to use sometimes, but I like the slow paced gameplay, and I love getting into sniper fights whilst in the conqueror