You know how they have that yellow diagonal ribbon on a tank’s tree icon to indicate that it was newly added in a recent update? I’ve always liked the idea of slapping a ribbon of a different colour (say, red) on tanks/planes/ships that are either incomplete, erroneously modelled, or were worked on by real engineers but never came together completely. This could give you more leeway to add plausible but “paper” designs to fill gaps (say, the P43 Bis for the Italian tech tree) without descending into WoT madness, while indicating to players what vehicles are less historical than others.
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I’d like to see them lean into the customisation side of things when making event vehicles unique. It would be nice to have more variants of tanks dressed up like the Tiger Ost/West, IS-2 No.321, etc.
I like the idea. A personal wish of mine would be the proposed Jagdtiger with 12.8 cm L/66 (plus potentially a stereoscopic rangefinder and the Sla.16), though I’ll admit that would require Gaijin expanding the game’s scope to include paper designs completely. Which I would love to see happen because it opens the gates to so many interesting vehicles, many of them conventional WW2-era ones… the O-I, the P.43 Bis you mentioned and so forth.
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You’re gonna love this… (Never mind, looks like it’s old news to you already! Ah well, something interesting for this thread at least)
Thanks to @gszabi99 for the datamine.
Not a bad idea, I’ll be happy with any marking method under the sun if it means Gaijin brings such vehicles to the game.
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The recent WW2 packs were amazing. Can’t wait for late war equivalents to come around a few years from now.
I do. I still would have preferred something like “Tiger Ausf B Pre-Series” and “Serienturm” or “Production”, something like that, but this is undoubtedly much better than before, and at least it’s not actively misleading people about the history of the vehicles!
Yes. I think Naval is proof that the concept is solid, because there is paper and then there is paper. The stuff we get in Naval is very grounded - real engineers worked on these projects, the components are not made up by the company, etc - while still being speculative.
After I finish my Jagdtiger Sla suggestion, I’ll see if I can bug report any of the inaccuracies that are there for the Jagdtiger we have in game already.
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I love the idea of affordable “line up” packs. The US and British ones have several historical issues though.
The British one is called Overlord, but only one of the vehicles actually served in that operation - the Firefly. The Avenger never left Great Britain during WW2 and only had a very brief service history in BAOR after WW2. The Crusader AA Mk II also never left Great Britian, is was declared unfit for battle and was reserved as a training vehicle. The actual in service SPAA was the Crusader AA Mk III, very similar, but different machine. What I would have done:
- Sherman IIA (M4A1 76) at 5.0: The British used them and a very low effort addition. Simply copy-paste the US one and then have cosmetic differences.
- Firefly IC Hybrid at 5.0: Just copy-paste the Italian one, and again, just have cosmetic differences.
- Crusader AA Mk III: Minor model differences on the turret and hull. Such as radio antenna in the hull instead of the turret, counter-weight between the 20mm guns, partial open-topped turret with a parapet.
That’s 3 “new” British vehicles, that could have had copy-pasted tech tree versions added too.
The US one is Pacific themed. We have a Korean War Sherman dressed up as a WW2 one and we have an incredibly well known Canadian Skink fighting the Japanese in the Pacific (sarcasm). When in reality the US had nothing to do with the Skink, had no interest in the program, and it only ever saw service with Canadian forces in Europe.
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All correct. And just to add to that issue - the German pack got an Ostwind II…
Still, if you ignore history for a moment, they’re fantastic. They’re the best value for money aside from premium time and the starter packs (effectively these are the new starter packs). We get WW2 content with some drip, the vehicles are competent and they come in lineups, no pay to win… In an ideal world, every premium would be like this.
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What makes it a Korean War M4A3E8 as opposed to a WW2 one? As far as I know, it didn’t change between wars.
http://the.shadock.free.fr/sherman_minutia/manufacturer/m4a376w/m4a3_76w.html
Fantastic site. In terms of major features, nothing. But it has many post-war features that the Pacific pack version shouldn’t have.
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Great stuff, I’ll give it a read. Cheers!
Agreed. Not that the Firefly is a bad fit, but adding tanks with APHE would bring a welcome bit of variety to those BRs. And it’s not as if Gaijin shies away from adding other nations’ vehicles in packs like these, just look at the Hanomag from the May '45 bundle.
If it’s added, I hope it comes with an HVSS modification that turns it into a Sherman IIAY. The same goes for the IIIA/IIIAY and both their American counterparts. I’ve wanted the M4A1E8 and M4A2E8 ever since ostketten/winterketten came to the game.
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One of the reasons it was not used despite Hitler really loving the tank, was because its transmission used copper which was already somewhat scarce resource for the Nazi war machine as most their copper production went to the U-Boat fleet.
The one Porsche Tiger that was completed used the Tiger 1 H’s engine fitted to the Porsche transmission because Porsche’s engine was absolute dogwater, worse than the engines on the original T-34 production runs.
The story is a little more complicated than that.
Here’s a read about it. And here is a follow up with some corrections/errata.
It’s an interesting situation that’s developed. The Coelian is, as expected, completely busted now. A lot of Coelian owners seem to be dusting it off, so it’s currently quite a high-profile vehicle around its BR.
I imagine there will be a lot of uproar about this overpowered, completely unobtainable vehicle in the coming weeks. Hopefully Gaijin concedes and brings it back alongside the Panther II and Tiger II 105.
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Vehicle got buff → many youtubers play it → many do it too → people cry out → the hype dies down again.
There really isnt anything new to it, just wait.
I’m fully prepared for that to be the case, but there’s no harm in hoping :)
@AurenKarach Off-topic thread bump: was watching a CodMineMan vid for the first time in a while and saw a familiar name…
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Haha! Of course the one time I appear on YT is when I have a godawful match. The sparser tree cover on that side of the updated map caught me out badly :D
Haha tell me about it. Whenever there’s a map update it takes me a good ~5 matches on it to get the hang of it again.
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Sometimes I think that’s the primary reason why they do sometimes seemingly-random changes to maps - to “reset” the board, so to speak
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they can add the version that actually existed and not bring back the mock up model
same hull, but with a different gun and only 1 of them