As long as Russian “Objects” ,American Sci FI vehicles ,Japanese tank destroyers ,Chinese Model XXXX vehicles/planes/ships exist in game …there is no reason not to even put German E Series in game.
At the same time as Gaijin refuses to put German/Italian prototypes in game that could fill that gaping hole in mid tiers they keep shoveling in more and more of Soviet/USA made up garbage.
But even the old stuff.
We all use the same third person camera, no matter what vision devices your late 1930s tank has or does not have access to. We reload in any turret position even if we lack a turret basket, or even if we’re literally up in the air after taking a ridiculous jump. We don’t throw tracks by steering adventurously. Armor doesn’t crack from fatigue. We don’t break suspensions. These things are just as physically impossible as the Tiger II 105’s range finder clipping through the guys in the turret. It’s just that the first class of looney toons physics is taken for granted.
I disagree, a lot of the “sci fi” vehicles you mention were built in metal at least once. The problem with the E Series is that they are turretless and gunless - not only because the designs were never finalised but also because the plans were abandoned in 1944. There are better options for more grounded upgrades to late war German vehicles without having to stretch the imagination too much.
Please name these “American Sci-Fi”. “Russian Objects”. Cause all of them existed to various degrees of production.
You are saying the same things the past said, “They weren’t finished, weh weh weh, doesn’t deserve to be added.”
The T-26-4, BT-7 [F32], RBT-5, BA-11, T-126, Matilda (F-96), SU-85A, SU-100Y, KV-2 (ZiS-6), KV-220, KV-122, T-34-100, T-44, T-44-100, T-44-122, Super Hellcat, M2, T55E1, M6A1, M6A2E1, BI-1, TIS MA, ITP (M-1), Tu-1, Su-6, Su-8, XP 50, XP 55, P 59, I-185, I-29, P-61C, P-51H, P-47M, Avro Lincoln, de Havilland Hornet, 75mm T45 shot, BR-412B & D, BR-471B & D, G-530, PB-35, TOG II, Kronshtadt, Sovetsky Soyuz, Sevastopol, the majority of the soviet navy, majority of all those american ‘T-’ vehicles, etc…propaganda prototypes that were either incomplete, post-war, never saw combat, were napkin drawings, showroom what-if failures, one-off rarities, wooden mock-ups, time travelers, self-destructing crew killers, dead ends, never used against any enemy, or never progressed past testing because of their ‘inadequacies’…and this is just a fraction of all the offenders
All of these were built in metal. The Panther II we have in game, and the Tiger II 105 - not only were they not built in metal, more damningly they were never designed like that and they were never going to be built in metal because the intention was not even there for 1945.
I support their return, but they are absolutely not the same as the vehicles on this list. The TOG II is arguably the only one that comes close because the version we have in game is an “ideal” version that is speculative in nature, and I agree that it was hypocritical of them to approve that standard for the TOG while keeping the removed German vehicles removed.
The Gneisenau upgunning is also fictional. We both know that standards for naval are far laxer and Germany benefits from that too. We’ll eventually see the H class as well and that’s pure paper.
Eh, no. The T29/T30/T34 for example were fully ready for mass production. There was just no need for them anymore but the prototypes were very extensively tested. You can find a lot of information about that online.
Just “incomplete” does not preclude addition into the game tbh. We have the Radkampfwagen for example and that definitely was incomplete.
… So? The game doesn’t end with 1945 vehicles, I’m not sure what your point is.
This is true for many 1930s vehicles too. It’s true for entire tech trees (Sweden). And again we have plenty of German vehicles like that too. The VK3002 has never seen combat either, but it’s arguably the best Panther in the game thanks to its great mobility + low BR.
There are a few - the Ho Ri, the “ideal” TOG, for example - but the former is slated for removal and it’s also important to note that no German company or designer ever sketched the “Tiger II 105” as the complete package we have in the game, because the 105 upgrade was being considered separate from all the other upgrades and was discarded almost immediately as an idea.
Again, Radkampfwagen, but also the NbFz, the KP70, Leopard 2K… The standard applies to Germany too.
What’s the problem with adding those? We even have the KWI C in the German tech tree, that’s also a one off rarity, but a very cool piece of history, and incomparable to a fictional Gaijin design.
Again, so what? The Puma is at 3.7 in the game. With historical matchmaking it would have to be in the same bracket as the Jagdpanther, IS-2 and Tiger II, making it also a time traveller. Should we remove it from the game?
This would apply, ironically, to so many German WW2 production designs that if we followed through it would cripple the tech tree.
Sounds like a repetition of “never saw combat”.
Porsche’s Tiger proposal also never made it past testing (ostensibly due to inadequacies but in reality likely for political reasons). Should we remove it?
Man. You can ask for the vehicles returning without going on such a weird tangent against other perfectly fine vehicles that belong in the game.
Dumbest list I’ve ever seen. 99% of these were built and tested.