Bring back M18 in BR 5.7

It’s not fast enough to justify being within 0.3 BR of a tank that is better in nearly every way (the M41), reverse gear matters 0%, the targeting speed is nothing special, and the pen is garbage for the tanks it has to face.

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The ones that didnt get that HP boost should go down, though.

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I checked your stats and your results with M18 are 51 deaths and only 11 kills…sorry but the problem is not the Hellcat.

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Damn it you where faster ^^

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Same for the Single HE round for M-18,… you boy say things that are not even applicable.

Im saying armor is irrelevant for both tanks. Meaning its basically all up to mobility and firepower. And the M18 has much better mobility with a great gun.

Also the M8A1 for tech tree, even though its a premium atm. (Please it would fit so well)

Yes.

I need this thing rn, this would be hilarious.

I wasn’t insulting German mains. I was saying that just because a player can perform well in a vehicle doesn’t mean that the BR is justified.

Just because the M18 can take out Tiger IIs doesn’t mean it should be 6.7.

If anything, you have shown that the M18’s BR was not the issue.

I can’t think of anything at 4.3 or 4.7 that would have trouble against it. Even most rank 1s can frontpen it iirc (aside from France and Italy). Most SPAA can also shed it pretty quick. It’s also worth noting I hadn’t seen any complaints about the M18 b4 it was moved to 6.0, so im sure it was moved up soley because Gajin’s algorithms said so.

I don’t think the snail is finished with its changes yet. It’s a bit like politics. Many small steps … Always wait and see how big the outcry is and then move on. I’m just waiting for the Tiger II H to be upgraded to 7.0 … very nasty and I don’t want it. But my gut is sounding the alarm.
I see the biggest advantage with the M18 on 6.0 for new players who should spend more time learning, especially in the 4.7 range. They won’t be constantly smoked out by the very good players.
I don’t want to say that it was necessary to raise the M18 to 6.0. You can do it, but you don’t have to thing. I’m more pissed off about the Chinese M41A3 that they pulled from 5.0 to 5.3. That thing is not easy with APBC as it is …

@Oldie-SE
Your gut is 100% wrong.
M18 to 6.0 was coming, it’s a potent light tank, and one that hands out nukes surprisingly easily.

doesn’t mean they should ruin America’s 5.7 lineup just to nerf an already balanced tank.

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If there’s one thing I’ve learnt in life, it’s that you should never say never. And I would always agree that the M18 is awesome. Even where it is now.

The bigger issue is the lack of a 6.0 American Lineup.

Ruin? lol
You still have 2 Jumbos, 2 normal Shermans, T1E1, and M36B2.
Any combination of those + an aircraft will fill the 5 free crew slots even removing the premium Jumbo from that list.

@Just_Baron
M18, M4/T26, M4A3E8, M36B2… not the most prevalent, but still strong.
Granted, America’s 6.7 lineup is the best in the game.

1 Jumbo
1 M36B2

3 extremely slow M18s
a mimic heavy tank that should be 5.0

Amazing lineup

Wha-

???

Why is the Tiger 2 player - who is far, far slower, with a longer reload, extremely slow hull and turret traverse “incompetent” when he gets flanked and killed by a Hellcat which is just about the fastest thing out there all the way up to 7.7 with 76mm APHE which is more than enough to consistently pen a Tiger 2 from the side - and one shot it.

And I say this as someone who hates playing the M18, I prefer the M36 greatly. I just don’t see how you can call a heavy tank being countered by a vehicle reaching its flank due to its speed advantage “incompetent”.

A competent Hellcat will no doubt be able to take out a competent Tiger 2 consistently. Unlike how someone compared the M22 to the M18, which clearly cannot.

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