F4S gets as follows------AIM-7Fs, HMS, wonderful radar and can carry up to 8 missiles. BR for F4S -12.0
Mig-23ML gets as follows----R-24Rs (exceptional missiles), excellent radar, and can carry up to 6 missiles.
Mirage-200F1C gets as follows-----Magic 2 (Decent missiles) garbage radar, And is constainly seeing F-14Bs and Ds (which it cannot perform against at all.) Carries up to 5 missiles (of which only 2 are worth it).
My argument for making Mirage F1C-200 11.7 like Mig-23ML for a fighting chance. Like I stated eariler, Mig-23ML has more missiles, waaay better radar, and an excellent engine, (I’m not saying Mirage has bad engine). Where in the world does the idea of having a better all round aircraft being in a lower BR?
I would like to see some changes soon. Thank you for reading this.
The Mirage F1C or the MiG-23ML? Because the Matra Super 530F is definitely not better than the R-24R let alone the R-23R unless we are purely talking about range.
The mig 23 has better radar missiles, the radar on the mirage on the other hand is better, he claimed that the mig had “way better radar” which is not the case
Sure. I’d be happy to give a few more examples of aircraft that it sees all all the time… Su-27, F15s, F-2As, JA37DI and DI F-21, F4F ice. And what is the worst one that Mig-23ML faces? Well F-14a, F15s (which r an ez kill for R-24R might I add)
“Well, magic 2s make them ez kills to!”
Sure children. Which is easier to kill with? Magic 2 that fell for pre fired flares that got launched right as I fired? Or an un-countermeasureable R-24R?
Plus. Which has better range?
And if you read this far, do something useful and bring some real in-game information up about Mirage or MiG that isn’t horse manure, and not a once-in-a-lifetime instance about where a mirage beat ur butt because you got lazy in a dogfight and hoped Russian bais would come out on top, and he handed u a couple of 30s straight up you after burner.
Gaijin mods and admins, pls look at battle-ratings from an un-baised perspective, and perhaps play said aircraft and see the on-going problem. Thank you gentlemen for reading this.
They’re all a full br higher at least
So obv they’d be better?
“Ohhh, MiG-23 faces F-18C Late and MiG-29 so it should go to 11.0”
“F-18C Early faces Su-27SM so it should be 12.3 or 12.0”
Terrible argument
Again, compare it to vehicles at its own br which is how the br system works
what i’m saying is : it is easy to complain when you didn’t have to grind for better missile.
but you forgot that you didn’t learn to play the aircraft with less potent missiles like Magic-1 and early R.530 series only.
however you still have 2KD ratio, which far higher than the average community on both premium and non-premium Mirage F.1C / F.1C-200
With pleasure. F-4s has Hms, Aim7f, and good radar. 12.0 just like mirage. Mig23ml is 11.7 with un-dodgeable radar and radar missiles. Ja37D is 12.0 with better missiles and radar, not to mention more missiles than mirage, again. F-4j is same as f-4s.
The MiG-23ML has a very average radar; I prefer the radar on the Mirage F1C, why? Because you can manually select MTI mode, whereas on the MiG it only activates automatically when there’s a lot of interference.
Only Gaijin could improve the Matra Super 530F’s resistance to chaff, but even so, out of 10 530Fs fired, about 6–8 hit the target. The lack of a launch indication on the RWR after firing is a great feature—you just need to choose your targets wisely and hold them on lock a little longer before firing the Matra 530F, so they let their guard down and don’t release chaff.
As for the Magic 2… They’re magical. The top-tier Fox 2—when fired from the rear hemisphere at ranges under 3 km (preferably under 2 km)—gives you an almost guaranteed kill.
I really like the Mirage F1C-200; it’s a solid premium aircraft, and it would be unfair to call it weak.
P.S.: A cool bonus is the third Matra R530 missile on the center pylon—you can get kills with it, too. It’s a bit finicky and doesn’t have much overload, but as a bonus missile? Why not ;)
P.S. II:
And those French 30mm cannons… Very effective “little” guns with a cool firing sound :)
PS III:
PLUS, over 400 cm is another big advantage of the F1C—it’s hard to run out of flares or dipoles in a realistic battle. This fighter really has a lot of advantages.
The MTI also works at much higher altitudes like iirc 6 or 5 km RALT and it isnt bound to the angle, you can still use it as a look up mode while the mig is strictly look down
Yeah, the MTI on the F1C works up to about ~6,000 meters—it’s nice.
What’s more, I recently started playing simulation battles, and in those, the F1C is practically overpowered. I even played it recently in the 11.7–12.7 battle tier, and it held its own; in battles in the 10.7–11.7 tier, it’s a beast—it wipes out the opposing team however it wants
A decent fighter for RB and incredibly good for SB.
I mean in sim could be a little trolly as iirc it doesnt gives launch warning.
That being said a buff on the guidance and drag like how the sparrows got would be nice
Exactly—even in realistic battles, the lack of a launch warning on the enemy’s RWR is a nice bonus, but in simulation modes, it’s a massive advantage; combined with MTI mode, it makes the Matra Super 530F truly “SUPER.”
And the Magic 2… In RB mode, it’s magical; in SB mode, it’s a death sentence for any opponent within its range ;)
