because germany was the one that actualy build this variant? and not dutch or belgium?
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again build and tested by germany. Sth you should be aware of, suggestion mods dont accept suggestion to nations if they dont relate to that country.
This one was accepted specialy because it was done by germany
Additionaly even the benelux ground suggestion specialy didnt put it it into their tech tree ideas as tech tree /event or even premium, because they are aware they have the least claim in truth and only name it at the end
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I believe this is the only wheeled vehicle with a 105mm that Germany has a direct claim to, which also didn’t involve the Dutch or Belgian. Sure, other options exist, but none of them have the same link. I don’t understand why this should go to France if they already have wheeled 105mm vehicles (Vextra and AMX-10RC) and no direct link to this vehicle.
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Firstly as far as I’m aware this is an entirely German project, by your argument we should move the Finnish CV-CT 105HP to the Belgian tree. Secondly, there are other similar vehicles for Belgium anyway, there’s the DF90 armed Piranha which 100% needs to be added before we get to prototypes.
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an almost identical concept of the 3105 turret on the Austrian Pandur II (also has a nice side effect of keeping it with the Austrian SK105) for the Portuguese trials, not much info tbh fair, but not too much different.
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There’s defiantly more, Cockerill have put their turrets or sold their turrets to literally anyone and everyone.
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Whatever the case, let’s hope this vehicle gets added.
It should bring some diversity in making line ups at 10 ish br
im going all in for light vehicles due to the lack of them on tech trees honestly, that’s why i’ve been suggesting boxer platforms
Yeah there is no shortage of stuff that Cockerill turrets have been crammed into.
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ty, didnt expect it to be an actual thing for this event lol
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No.
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Exactly, case in point my cockerill post:
Even the 3105 turret on its own had already sold 200 units in its first year to multiple nations. Every single Cockerill turret with a 105HP gun (no joke) was trialed on the Belgian army Piranha IIIC anyway, so Belgium/France could get all the Cockerill prototype-turrets easily that way into the tech tree. The unique thing about the Belgian prototypes is that they are the only ones we can be certain of that the use the crazy MECAR M1060CV APFSDS round, so it would be more logical to have these versions in the Belgian/French Tech tree (Piranha IIIC or Piranha V or Leopard 1A5BE with the cockerill turrets).
There is/was never a need for these multi-company ventures to be added. You don’t want 30 vehicles with the 105HP gun in the same tech tree anyway. This addition to germany makes a lot of sense. :)
btw @UnHolySausage Good job on the post!
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Yeah and like i said in the post the only reason i suggested this was because of it’s German Hull, and that it was tested by KMW in Germany i really would like to see other cockerill in general for Benelux
you so smart prediction
[Development] Mobile Sniper: Boxer MGS
Here’s the Devblog for your suggestion vehicle.
( 3105 - Welcome | John Cockerill Defense America )
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France never entered the boxer program. Nor do they have interest to use them. It would make absolutely no sense for France to get a Boxer 8x8.
Only countries valid are Germany and Britian. Maybe Isreal as an event vehicle because Qatar also have a small amount of Boxers.
It is also a demonstration, there is no word on it actually being in use, therefore point is moot. It was made by Germany primarily and Cockerill is based in Belgium. There was no planned use in Belgium to use the module either, the fire trials were set for Germany and the UK but ended up being cancelled and currently unknown.
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He meaned because of belgium and the neitherlands
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Belgium is only referenced because Cockerill is based there, Belgium doesn’t have the Boxer in service, only the Netherlands, still a very far reach for France getting a boxer.
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erm
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Still nothing happened