After 1 month the 9.7 to 11.0 br still unplayable because of 2 tanks bmpt and bmpt 72 these 2 are proving a old point that the Russian tech tree needs a massive nerf in armor and Mechanic’s in their tanks.
To start i need to say that gaijin you make right decision to add this thing to warthunder your proved that the Russian tech tree above 9.0 should get a rework in everything it has ifvs, mbts and tank Destroyers.
Its the 4 time that the Russian tech is causing a problem to the game 1 time was the 2s38 after it the pantsir-s1 death zone,after it the kh38 spam in every top tier match and now the bmpt with his unrealistic 30mm 2a42 cannon that if Russian ever got their irl counterpart all ifvs in Russian tech tree will be ruined.
The bmpt does not need to be moved to 12.0 our 11.0+ what gaijin need to do is to add the irl 30mm cannon’s for russia this will not only burn the russian abuse of overpowered 30mm cannon’s but will also change how these ifvs are planned to be used.
Changes to it down below
2a42 30mm cannon
*Takeout the apfsds froom bmp2m
*After 200 meters higher the imprecision and bullet spread of the cannon
*Change penetration to max 60 to 66mm with apds
2a72 30mm cannon and 100mm 2a70 cannon
30mm 2a72 Cannon
*After 300 meters higher the spread of the cannon
*If firing the 30mm no premission to use the 100mm 2a70 cannon
100mm 2a70 cannon
*Add a new reload Mechanic’s to turn off the 30mm 2a72 Cannon when reloading
(MBT only)
Armour can only be nerfed if they get a BR increase, or if other nations get anti ERA rounds, and neither of which would be fair to Russian tanks because they remove their only “real” advantage over NATO tanks.
Mbts need a rework in their autoloader protection ever since the they added the cover for the ammo in autoloader that thing is eating apfsds froom strange angles
Nerf the armor? The only good point of Russian tanks is their armor. They have at most 6 degrees of gun depression, plus they have 4 km/h reverse speed for the T-90 and T-72, and 11 km/h for the T-80, which are terrible at top tier. And you want to remove the only thing that makes them playable? Their armor is realistic, but I understand that Western tanks are nerfed; even if they had their real armor it wouldn’t change much, there would be the same weak spots. Also, if they had realistic armor, they would also need realistic APFSDS— in real life they penetrate a crazy amount. Top tier wouldn’t change much, honestly.
I understand the issue with the 30 mm, but they can use APFSDS ammunition with upgrades. Dispersion makes sense, but you know you can lower the rate of fire to improve accuracy. If it’s a skill issue, please don’t cry.
except reduce the places to shoot at? same as what russian tanks do with their armor? I don’t know anybody comes to this conclusion just because SOME weakspots will still exist
A large part of frontal shots are aimed at weak spots such as the mantlet or the lower glacis. The Abrams didn’t have DU in the hull until the SEP v3; very few units have it, and it’s not the standard. Its hull was designed to withstand 115 mm rounds, not 125 mm.
The Leopard 2 would have the same weak spot as Russian tanks, and with modern APFSDS ammunition its hull could be penetrated over a large area. The Challenger would have the same weak spot as the Russians, in addition to the driver’s area. The Leclerc and Type 10 have poor armor distribution and have quite a few gaps with almost no armor.
Chinese tanks would be similar to Russian ones, but worse. The Merkava would be better, but not by that much. You could shoot the barrel or the mantlet, and with realistic ammunition like EBM60 you could easily penetrate the hull of tanks such as the Type 10/90, Leclerc, Leopard 2A4/5/6, Abrams, Challenger, and more.