Black Night L23A1

Oh, ho ho ho good advice in map typical Gaijin map that love to throw map like Abandoned factory when I got hit in my BVM or Strv 122 and i survive countless time poor guy with Challenger and Ariete? not so much.

yeah, BN is 12.0 so we’re talking about 12.0 here

I do in when playing BVM or 122 work well too these tanks can make more mistake than something like Challenger2 and in the typical high tier map in this game
damn this is first time i meet insane guy dare to say that Challenger and Ariete better than top Russian tanks even hardcore Russian main don’t even dare to say such thing.

I’m sorry but the CR2 would not have worse survivability than the M1A1.

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Optics are negligible, be real here, both have good optics.
Reversing and repositioning is key at top tier, especially if your teammates die and you need to get out of there to a better position. BVM can’t do that.
The ATGM is nigh useless, and their shells are near identical, I did not notice a difference between them.
BVM is hard-stuck at 6.5s, everyone knows that it is, while with the 2E an enemy doesn’t know if you’re out of ready rack or not, and thus they won’t take the gamble of peaking expecting you to be out. A tad psychological.
5.3s for 5 rounds is > perma 6.5s.
2E is more survivable, not armored. BVM is a walking ammorack/fuel tank, with only 3 crew.
Yes, BVM is better in this regard.
BVM’s profile comes with its cons, meaning no reverse, no depression, lack of space for survivability, etc.

Looking at your sessions, you barely even played top tier after the basket changes?

And what basket change had to do with it? does it magically makes Leopard2 BVM and Strv 122 worse than Challenger because don’t have basket?
I don’t think so.

Just hit another T-80 centre-mass from the side and it took out autoloader only. Would CR2 survive that? I don’t think so, despite the fact T-series interiors make the CR2’s look like a football field.

Show the shot in replay. Yes, it happens sometimes, but I can assure you that you also made a poorly placed shot.

The first 2:30 of this video explains very well the flaw of Russian reverse gears.

No thank you

Go check the replay. Most recent game on American Desert. I won’t be queuing for another 20min.

Shot 1, bad shot
Shot 2, missed LFP
You are relying on them nonpenning you as you peaked, stop doing that.
You were clueless trying to kill that 2A7 and were completely vulnerable to anybody else. Don’t tunnelvision.
You died because of a string of mistakes, and then there’s L23A1 just being extremely weak, that ERA just does tank quite a bit of spall because its quite strong, nothing out of the usual.

Wrong targets. Look again.

I’m not relying on nonpens when I peak. I’m baiting for my teammate to the left of me who as you decided to not mention, killed them both after they wasted their shot on me.

Don’t do that. You’re going to get yourself killed, bait with barrel or tracks, not your hull.

There was 2 bunched up T-80s, a 2A7 who had his barrel peaking out, a 2PL, and a T-80UE1 that tanked the L23A1 because of the side-Kontakt-5.

There was nothing wrong with that strategy except for when I missed the T80’s LFP and hit dozer instead(I adjusted gunner sight recently and don’t have LRF unlocked). Abrams to my left picked up both kills.

2A7 was tunnel visioned on someone else and not targetable. Barrel only is visible so I take that out. T-80UE1 eats my round to side armour at centre-mass because of magic ERA, but you’ve been saying that the T-80’s are bad when they’re the ONLY tank in the game that live in that scenario.

Holy you are dense.

"I’m losing the argument, errrr… I know, insult!’

Don’t make me go back and quote all the times in this thread you’ve said getting penned or hit full-stop is a guaranteed kill… ‘don’t get hit’… ‘T series is bad’… bla bla bla. Yet we see a T series get hit centre-mass from the side, and survive, because of ERA. Not a single other tank in the game is capable of surviving that enough to fire back immediately. Are you genuinely just a Russian fanboy or are you delusional?

It is pointless arguing with someone like you. You have no experience in the tanks you are talking about, too dense to accept any points, and too lost in your fabricated reality, on top of just being a plain bad player that refuses to accept any criticism.

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“Dumb people being too dumb to realise they are dumb: a display by Magikッ”

Your points have been disproven, your own hypocrisy pointed out, and even your opinions have been faulted by objective reality. When faced with this realization you insult and strawman 🤷🏻‍♂️

Having neutral steer and >20kph reverse makes for a great close quarters tank that I’ve been enjoying.

Obviously T-90M is better at medium and long range than my Challenger 2s are where that general mobility isn’t as necessary.
It’s just nice mobility to have.

@Bowman_1
The only T-series tank that comes close to Leopards is VT-4 and ZTZ-99A.
T-series tanks are not even as good as my Abrams.

Now, T-90M is more armored than Challenger 2s which makes them decent when you play into the T-90M’s lack of mobility.
T-80BVM having bad turret armor for having heavily over-performing mobility in-game is… harsh. It either works or it doesn’t.

T-80UK is probably the Soviet tech tree’s best overall tank for its BR… I’d say it’s overall better than Challenger 2 despite its limited traverse and reverse capabilities.

If your playstyle relies heavily on utilizing forward, traverse, and reverse then Challenger 2s will treat you well.