If you wouldnt permanently lie,you´d know J-7Es and MiG-21 F-13 30mm have same velocity and on two out of three shells even worse than Shvaks on BI,as they are 800 m/s,and J-7E have 800 m/s and 2x 795 m/s
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even then, with all BRs and nations selected, BI-1 never fail so show up and previously mentioned categories.
I want you to play ARB, with only mk-108s is preferable.
Show your point
Unbind your “fire small calliber” keybind and play any of these
[30 mm MK 108 cannon | Weaponry | War Thunder Wiki] (30 mm MK 108 cannon | Weaponry | War Thunder Wiki)
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The difference is the objective statistics of the vehicle.
If you look at the characteristics of the E-100, it’s very apparent that it’s a very marginal upgrade over the Maus. It’s very slightly faster, and the hull armor is very slightly stronger (Which is where you’ll never be shooting it anyways).
This, combined with the fact that it’s only given out to tournament champions, and the Maus’s already very high skill floor/ceiling, it’s easy to understand why it has massively inflated stats, and to ignore it as an outlier.
The BI is rare, but pretty much anyone has/can get their hands on it. It was just a reward from a grind event, and has appeared in SL crates since their inception. While this does give it a bias towards better players than tech tree vehicles, it’s not the same as only being played by people skilled enough to win tournaments.
It’s characteristics also also blatantly insane for the tier. As long as you can manage the throttle, you have absurd energy generation, far more than anything else outside the other rocket planes up at ~8.0. It’s tiny, it’s nimble if you don’t compress, and the guns hit hard enough when you get good hits to somewhat account for the tiny ammo pool.
It’s a high skill floor vehicle, since you need to manage your throttle (Both for fuel, and also to avoid compressing), and the tiny ammo load means you need good aim and good positioning to ensure you get good shots. But it’s skill ceiling is absurd. Played correctly, nothing can ever touch you, while you can force engagements on anything, regardless of their energy state.
You’re still using yourself as a sample size of 1, and ignoring the sample size of literally everyone else. But given the limitations of playing on controller, I can see why you’d prefer the 30mm. With those, even if aiming is more difficult, it’s far more rewarding for just hitting the target once or twice, even in areas that would otherwise be non critical, like the tail section.
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That’s pure BS.
Again, let me introduce you to Yak-9K:
1 MK 108 hit.
Then 2 MK108 hits.
3rd hit his fuel tank and he died, but that’s beside the point.
Claiming MK108 is 1 tap is lying not only to yourself, but to me. And I do not like that.
I also shot Spit Mk 24 in the wing’s leading edge with Mk108 and he got small parts of the wing yellow, unfortunately I deleted the screenshot while fighting for disk space.
Here’s a 9t plane after getting hit by Shvak once:
Anyway, my Do-335 was not able to go fast in a straight line or turn. I was a sitting duck after 1 hit, barely being able to outrun a goddamn Zero.
Is Shvak guaranteed 1-shot?
nope.
Will it mess you up?
Oh yeah.
And jets are notoriously hard to kill unfortunately. Feels like shooting at a goddamn tank, MK108 usually does a bit better, but I had jets tank several hits and keep on outrunning my Ta-152H.
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Why would I have to unbind anything?
Bf-109Z only has 30mms.
Also, I did play ARB recently for a whole day to humor you. I did quite well.
I only died a couple times, and on average got 2.5 kills a match.
I do not agree that the Maus has a high skill floor, anyone can hop into a spades Maus and do quite well.
Although I do agree the Bi has a very high skill floor / ceiling, however that doesn’t necessarily account for the opponent’s skills. As a highly skilled opponent will likely make the Bi waste most of its ammo.
The BI’s biggest pro is its acceleration (also a bit of a con because it can compress quite quickly), meanwhile its biggest con is its 90 round ammo pool.
Its turn rate is kinda mid, being able to max out 11gs, where props can turn harder than this.
Like I said before, the only way I see them bumping it up, is to give it 30 more rnds or something, then it could be a 7.0 in arb, and a 6.7 in grb.
As the for the 30mm controller bit, perhaps. It’s not like I have low accuracy, flew the P-63? For France and spades it no problem, the 12.7s and 37mm make short work of any opponent while having a good climb rate and so on.
Also flew a few others.
I didn’t like the Hispanos on the Spitfire FR though.
How am I lying?
@0:32
I literally only scored one hit. The Bf-109Z’s guns are very spread apart (I also use 600 meter gun convergence) and you almost never hit 2 guns on the same target, and to add to that, they’re spread nicely to cover a wide area.
so you don’t connect the other offensive armaments most mk-108 aircraft posses.
It is only to ensure you only use the MK-108.
show a replay or video
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Look it up bro, I’m not here to hold your hand.
hold my hand then.
I don’t need to crawl around your YT
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it doesn’t matter if you can just hold that speed on 45 degree climb and on a moment’s notice.
That’s the problem.
BI-1 can make the dumbest mistake know to man and still leave whatever it wants to.
It can only be punished if it full commits on a head-on. Even then BI-1 can come out on top or both parties lose.
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arb or grb? I can’t tell, point it out for me will you?
You need to fly the BI in an actual battle, trying to catch a jet is impossible because you’ll over speed, then not be able to get out of that compression, and perish.
It’s arb. I JUST TOLD YOU. I literally played ARB for a whole day, just to appease all of you over my stats.
And most of my AAb, and arb stats account for bombers. (Because I like bombers)
where’s the proof?
We showed you a lot of proof during all of this “little” conversation about BI-1 performance.
Yet your proof of a BI-1 not overperformin in ARB is a “trust me”?
Me-163 suffers from the same stuff.
You don’t catch up to a jet, you try to lure a jet to bleed it’s speed and be vulnerable.
Jets accelerate way worse than props.
You beat jets in verticals, climbrate, low speed controls and acceleration (also turntime in some cases)
You don’t know how to use these?
Well I had 3 kills in that and 1 death. (BI)
Eremins Yak-3(e) I had 4 kills, and 2 deaths in.
F-6C-10-Na I had what 4 kills a 0 deaths?
BF-109F-4 12 kills, 3 deaths.
P-63C-5 6 kills 0 deaths.
Weird how the Russian aircraft had lower kdrs… odd innt?
Me-163 doesn’t suffer compression nearly as bad, and not at the same speeds. It can go faster
go to replays
look up the replay
click the folder icon
send the file
OR you can open the replay and record it
Send the damn proof. because statsharks filters by arcade, realistic and simulator
It doesn’t separate tanks battles from air battles.