The most forgotten secret about AirRB: It’s a team game.
You don’t have to fight this plane on your own.
It’s the same problem with the Me 163 at 8.0. Sure the performance is OP in a downtier. But a team with one more braincell than average counter it with ease.
And if he plays spaceship, ground pound.
It’s probably the most forgotten because it’s true in name only. Teammates can often be more dangerous than the enemy. And at best they serve as distractions. Sometimes teammates communicate, or even try to coordinate with you, but often they lack the skill to avoid dying quickly when a fight begins, especially against an opponent as unstoppable as a BI. It’s very rare to find a random teammate who is communicative, coordinating, and competent. Most Air RB prop players dont even want to be there, they are just trying to grind some supersonic. The only reliable teammates are when I squad up with friends, which ofc is not an option all the time. Regardless, whenever I see a BI in a match, I always call it out as a priority target for the team. Whether this does any good or not is up to them. Besides, against any other prop or early jet I can usually just win the game by myself. The BI only causes trouble because it is overpowered and can’t be countered.
I would rather face the Me 163 than the BI, not saying the 163 should face props AT ALL, but it would genuinely be easier to counter even in a prop. 7.0 jets certainly have a far better chance against the 163 than 5.7 props have against the BI.
The only reason the BI is worse than the Me 163 is because the BI rips and compresses at such low speed for a jet/rocket. The 163 is way faster and compresses way less at high speed. That’s it. The BI has something around double the 163’s thrust to weight ratio, so it climbs and zooms WAY better. It’s also far more maneuverable at the speeds props are usually able to reach. In regards to fuel economy, the BI can actually maintain the same speeds as the 163 does at a much lower throttle setting. The BI can go about as fast at 17% throttle as the 163 does at 40%. The Me 163’s low velocity MK 108s also require much more skill to aim, especially against fast moving jets or in a dogfight, than the BI’s high velocity Shvaks. In a prop, if a 163 engaged me in the kind of low-speed dogfight the BI dominates, I could just outmaneuver and kill him. If the 163 makes a pass against me and I dodge it, I have a much better chance of getting a shot at him when he tries to zoom away compared to the BI that can just fly straight up at 20000+ ft/min and barely lose speed.
If the BI is high up and I go ground pound, he can just come kill me. He doesn’t even need an altitude advantage, it can run down any prop at any altitude, force them to dive away (assuming their rip speed isn’t lower than the BI’s) until they reach ground level, and then outmaneuver and kill them.
Properly flown BI is simply unkillble outside of lucky 1km spray using high velocity weapons with stealth belt.
The plane clowns on props and early jets. Basically it can deny the opposing team the climb, score some kills, rearm and return to harass people some more with 0 risk.
The only real risk is ripping your wings while pulling sustained 14G turn.
Yes, it locks up at 700.
This is why should attack from below and bait enemy by sitting at reltively low energy.
BI can out-energy anything it faces anyway, even if it starts at huge disadvantage, and it won’t even take 20s to do.
I see @ProgramTheta has already explained everything.
I think most decent players are chat banned or worse, actively talking only to their seal-clubbing 4-stack, console players - they never use chat, and casuals don’t have the ability to fly and read chat at the same time… I remember 10 years ago chat being much more active.
I will point out it has a lot fuel contrary to what the fueltimer says. To extend its range you throttle down to the point you only have the acceleration of a 7.0 jet.
The issue is if anyone turns they have to throttle up or leave them alone.
It’s how I’ve drained many a BI in the past, and how I’d still do it today.
Did they up it’s BR or just the part about it only coming out once a year?
I mean if anyone turns with you in a BI. You drain them of energy, or just outturn them. Which is something you can do as long as the BI dont have almost full fuel.
If its on 10 seconds of fuel, thats still a minute of more acceleration than you get in other nearby BR jets, while being in its most agile state.
There is more hope in it having no ammo left tbh
Ok, so you turn with BI, he gets in a firing position within few seconds, DED. True masterplan.
BI is indeed easy to frag.
I can already see the battle where you energy fought a BI and lost haha
You do know at 10% thrust it has an actual fuel time of over 1 hour and 30 minutes and at that thrust can still outspeed any prop it faces theres also the issue of the rocket exhaust still being bugged and causing it to come out at a good percentage of the speed of light for some reason at low throttle causing the insanely high fuel efficiency
+1
The only fully pay to win aircraft? like 90% of premiums are better than anything in the tech tree, or in the past had preferential altitude spawns, payloads, ect. Air RB is the most obvious p2w in the game with crew skills and paypig planes, and the only people who defend it are retarded or spent hundreds to not have their $40 plane nerfed.
No individual vehicle is pay to win, you can’t give a noob a very good tank/plane and expect them to perform really well.
Crew skills are the only pay to win mechanic in war thunder, because they are a purchasable advantage. They offer a greater advantage than any vehicle could give.
I said it’s the only truly pay to win aircraft because unlike any other OP premium, it isn’t just “Pay for a massive advantage”, it’s “Pay to be unstoppable”. The performance gap between the BI and the piston engine fighters in it’s BR range is so overwhelming that it is not reflected anywhere else in the game. I really can’t think of any other paid aircraft that provides the same level of advantage as the BI. It’s 130-160 kmh faster than any prop, it’s turn below about 650kmh is incredible and it climbs like an early supersonic, at 6.7 BR.
Do you want me to count out a list of 50 p2w vehicles right now? You can give a noob an IS-6 or KV-220 a test drive and he will kill six people easily.
And unlike any prop or non-afterburning jets, it will get there incredibly easily. In steep climb if they so choose
I suggest you go to the Swedish tech tree, Premium section, the one at tier 5 on the furthest right, says Pack 8.0. Thank me later.
Still not pay to win. The Vidar isn’t a godly vehicle, it’s just very good. HE can be iffy if you don’t where to aim, and it doesn’t have the armour to be noob friendly.
