It probably feels like that because there’s a good amount of under tiered American planes that are very good kicking German ass after being dropped down by the diet of their pilots and the skill of their player
This is the case for all br’s from 3.0 to 8.0
Not even mentioning Russian UFO’s
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There aren’t any American prop planes that give German planes any issues (aside from maybe the XP-50 and 55). The bigger issue is soviet planes which have practically entirely fictional weapon performance and flight performance.
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Since .50 cal damage is fictional ,every US plane that uses .50 cal is fictional
Yes, I guess you could argue that .50cals being artificially nerfed compared to autocannons, and 12.7mm used by all other nations means .50cals as represented ingame are as fictional as 90% of the USSR tree.
.50 cals are so vastly overpowered that is laughable
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They deal less damage per second, and especially per shot than German 20mm HE.
Doesn’t matter when they are 3 x more powerful then irl
As a mostly jet player I forgot Gaijin un-.50’d the .50s, you’re right
They’re actually quite abit weaker. They don’t deal nearly as much part damage as irl reports and footage shows, the API shots don’t function correctly, and every other 12.7mm has some strange high explosive incendiary which deal 3-5x more damage, or in the case of Soviet 12.7mm, will flat out 1-shot wings and tails as if they’re 20mm.
Also, all weapons in Warthunder deal more damage to planes than IRL, with the exception of .50cals.
F4U-4/B, P-51C (I use cannonstang more, but fight enough Cs when flying my 109s to feel confident it meeting my expectations in the cannonstang and exceeding it), P-51/Mustang MK Ia, F6F-5 (I suck with it, but I see plenty of people do amazing with it), P63A5.
Just off top of my head based on personal experience.
If I include reported experience,
P38 variants for flap fighting, P39 for general undertiered monster. P51H, F8F.
yet are better guns
P-63A and P-39 is the only vehicle in that list that’s undertiered, but that’s because it’s also a Russian and American premium.
The F4U-4s are pretty good (especially the 4B) but still easy to counter.
the Mustangs are all pretty overhyped.
F8F-1 is ok but even my Fw-190D-9 can outturn it.
F6F and P-38 are a joke.
This is wrong, by a lot.
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I recommend watching some IdahoBookworm videos in that case. He loves the Hellcat, and brings it into plenty of dogfights against german aircraft with great success. Same for the P38. The two planes do require directly contradictory approaches though - F6F being about energy, instantaneous turn and one circle, P38 being about curves, rate and flaps.
And I love my cannonstang, and the C-stang is better all around outside of bomber hunting so I’m confident in its capabilities.
F8F I havn’t used in forever, but it’s got everything the hellcat can do and do it better on paper.
Yes, cause a guy who’s spent tens of thousands of hours mastering a vehicle is definitely the best way to tell if it’s good or not.
I mean, yes?
I suck at flying spitfires. I have no right to claim they suck because I spend more time trying not to die than actually thinking about how to win the fight I’m caught in - cognitive load and all that.
Citing people who have a passion to learn the flaws and strengths of a given aircraft and use it in both a dynamic and sterile environment with good results on the other hand does provide an accurate representation.
Now, you could argue that a vehicle is difficult to learn or easy to learn as a metric of “Is it a good first plane to fly?” or “Is it a good plane to learn X aspects of combat flying?” (As a rule of thumb, learning in a plane that’s not trying to kill you is more fruitful due to the whole cognitive load thing).
“X is a difficult plane to learn to do well with, but once it clicks you can get great results” equals a good to very good plane in my book.
As a non-warthunder example,
Just because the average player sucks at using Meepo in Dota 2 doesn’t change the fact that Meepo, back when I actively played (6.86ish era), was considered a top tier pick. Idk current day meta.
You could try and claim that ANY plane is good by having som1 with 5k hours in ARB play it. You could make the B-57A look good. Citing som1 with thousands of hours in a single vehicle isn’t a good way to tell if that vehicle is good or not cause it will always look good.
Fw190s, even with passion and love, won’t become good aircraft.
Hellcats do.
Fw-190s are already extremely good