And that is not how it works. By that logic clickbait should go down by BR. And have u seen anything to do with that the past 3 or 4 BR adjustments? No. Q5, do people get a lot done? No, but what BR is it now? The physical capabilities do have an impact, and if not for that, certain jets would just be repeatedly uptier’d, because they still have 4.0 k/D.
That is exactly how it works. I won’t humor otherwise.
Well clearly not, half of the past BR adjustments are just because people cried about them. Q5, J35XS, J7D (sort of for the sale but still), the fact that wyverns are doing well but not going up. The stats only works for a part of it, cause afterall, player skill is not measurable necessarily, players who played more or have more fighters will get better K/D however sometimes there are tech trees that just simply don’t have those, then stats go down, but that doesn’t mean the person is any worse of a player.
Not the case. Stick to facts and reality.
I don’t like your attitude but when you’re right you’re right, the yak3u and BI are the bane of my existence, at least with the yaks you can climb, the BI is just cancer. also if you think Germany is over tiered, play Italian props
I’m not saying Germany is overtiered.
But yeah, Re.2005 and G.56 and post flap nerf (you basically have no flaps unless you’re going like 280 IAS) G.55 Serie 1have 0 reason sitting as high as they currently do. Probably applies to other planes as well. C.205 S3 is not exactly stellar at 4.7
the fw190antons are over tiered imo, and the g55 is even more over tiered than the c205. I really hope we get a rebalance of mid tiers, it’s honestly so frustrating to see planes like the f4u4 and f8f1 have such low br.
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Regarding this point just something to think about:
If we have a common understanding that BR adjustments are mainly based on statistical performance data and other (unknown) parameters and consider that gaijin is as feedback resistant (except steam reviews) as your toaster it seems way more likely that they just hesitate to adjust (non-premium) aircraft BRs based on short term trends and trigger changes only after complains are confirmed by (from their pov) reliable statistical data.
Therefore iit is rather unlikely that player feedback (“crying”) plays a significant role. Otherwise we would have seen a BR increase of the 45mm Yak-9 last round.
As a sidenote from an interested observer of your recent exchanges with @AllNationEnjoyer :
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It looks like you try to discuss a topic with too much unknown variables. From my pov you both lack the necessary statistical data to support your views even as circumstantial evidence support most of them.
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Imho the more or less stable BRs of German props are also a result of the not implemented separate BRs for Air and Ground RB in the prop BR segment - best example is imho still the 410 B-6/R 3 at 5.0 which seems to perform very well in Ground RB but is imho far away from being remotely competitive in Air RB.
R3 no longer performs well. It used to pre-APCR nerf. Now it’s kinda pain.
Now if we received 30mm APHE for omegalul APCR/APHE belt, it would be worth 5.0, I mean kinda because Dornier at 4.3 is way superior in every metric, it has 1 30mm, but 2 serious bomb drops compensate.
BTW it’s insane hownmuch more Costly 4.3 Dornier is in 5.3 match compared to Fw 190 F8 because of 30mm 58 pen belt or 77 pen HVAP, even though you may be able to kill 2 tanks unless you’re very good and lucky, as that thong seems to barely do any damage and strafing people with cannons is a good way to get yourself killed.
Well assuming they are not affected by comments.
- The stats fluctuate as well, so that can not be how they adjust BR entirely, since things with horrible stats are raised in BR. If indeed they are getting stats which suggests certain planes are doing ‘too well’ they would have raised their BR, which they haven’t, so either they must see over a relatively prolonged period, which hasn’t happened since BR adjustments have not seem to come for most of these aircraft.
- Stats are not as ‘objective’ as they seem, certain planes like early BF109 I have 5.0 k/d with, but doesn’t mean it’s broken. Meanwhile bombers like Tu4 has near 0 good stats, and no BR adjustment came through. Partially because no one plays them and there is a lack of feed back.
Obviously rules bend to premiums like J7D and J35XS. But stats change as well due to change of maps and every BR change also alters other planes. I am not saying that stats do not play a role, but just that it isn’t the entire thing.
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I used to love german fighters, but lately, I feel that the german 20mms just don’t do consistant damage like any other 20mm for other nations.
A singular shvak does more damage than a 109 with gunpods.
Not to mention, that since the german guns have lower muzzle velocity, they are a lot harder to aim, because of the lead.
The minengeshoss used to be LETHAL, now, it feels like I’m shooting peas at my enemies.
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It looks like that we are (generally speaking) on the same page as i wrote :
The BR setting of bombers looks like a complete separate thing.
From my pov they use a mix of maximum (TNT) damage output combined with a rather low emphasis on actual results until they are reliably more than a trend. That’s why bomber BR reductions take ages despite they die like flies.
The only sharp BR increases of bombers in the last 3-4 years i can remember were the BR increase of the Ju 88 A-4 from 2.3 to 3.0 (based on getting introduced in the Swedish TT) and the B-18B from 3.0 to 4.0 in just 2 rounds…
Have a good one!
checked again and it seems all 3 got a nerf because their WEP power only differs arround 80 HP between the D20, D10 and D30
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Now that’s an interesting development :D
Remember Defyn’s video about premium D10 and back then it was damn good.
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Mate I only realized how OP they were until I played on the other side. The E series are weak, but the F (esp. F4), G, and K are all really OP. IMO it’s a flying tank that lacks APHE.
Quite the contrary to me, E is OP, F1 is nice, but after that they were pretty mid. F4 does get to bully some of the planes, but G and K are certainly quite slow and not as dominant on turns. Fire power also inferior to russian stuff.
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Is E OP? I mean, it’s OK I guess. They can sometimes kill my Yak-2KABB. Sometimes.
Nah, it’s cuz of the skill floor. Countless times I’ve seen Emils flying tree-top level and ended up getting shot at by my Vought. The F1 (hell naw F2) is good since more players by then know how to play.
I mean F1 is where the kettle starts but it is also super fast and manoeuvrable at 2.7. Also that axial 20mm tears very well. Later on I just think yaks out run and turn u, and they also outgun u. Spitfires pretty much do the same, and then there are the A6s, also P51s and all those super turning and super energy fighters. U pretty much have no chance. When I played 109E I thought it was really good, sometimes better than F actually, kinda similar to IRL but after that it goes down hill. F4 is pretty much F1 but 1.3 BR up. IDK even what was upgraded.
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That’s IF you know how. Think abt averag German mains at that brain level, really.