Only dumb and laser rockets I would say 8.7-9.0
Does this have rocket computer?
Not explicitly stated anywhere, although it does use the same mission computer with allegedly identical software as the AH-1Z. It doesn’t seem to have a HUD, but the TopOwl HMS is stated to provide “Operational applications of navigation, target designation, and weapons aiming and firing” (I suppose “weapons aiming and firing” also implicitly suggests that there exists ballistic computer functionality).
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actually I put in a bug report for that apparently they are permanently fixed forward on it (not a door gunner)
zuni?
Naw just Hydra 70s and APKWS II
I can understand that being the case for the Blackhawk we have ingame, but other variants of the Blackhawk would definitely have non-fixed guns, whether they be the M-60s, M2s or M134s.
And you know what would be the perfect gamemode for it?
This one:
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can uh1y fire agm114 hellfire?
i would love this helo to get added.
but its weapon loadout is SUPER limited compared to most helos.
IT NEEDs the AGR-20C (Laser guided M247 heat rockets) and AGR-20A(PF) also knows as the AGR-20Ds which are a Proxi Fuzed version of the Agr-20A/M151 warhead, for anti helicopter/drone/and airbursting over infantry.
I also really want all the other vehicles that get APKWS to get the modern C and D apwks too.
the helicopter wouldnt be super useful without that stuff…
and everything needs the ability to buddy laze that should have it… M1A2 Sep V2 and V3, M3A3, Ah64, UH1Y/N, AH1W/Z. Aircraft with targeting pods… etc etc.
Anyway the UH-1Y would also be good at 9.3 with that loadout.
You could also add the UH-1N with CCIP and Hydra rockets, thermal and buddy lazing at like 8.7
though ngl alot of other US helis need their brs lower too cuz they aren’t good.
- AH1G for all nations should be like 7.3 cuz they are turbo trash.
- Italian AB205 should honestly be like br 6.3 and it will STILL be terrible down there… its such a sad helicopter…
- MI 24s P/V/ need to go from 9.7 to 10.0 or 10.3 they have fantastic AAMs, Rockets, atgms, and countermeasures all on the same platform at the same time. many higher tier vehicles dont even get that.
- UH1B should be 8.0 like the Mi4,
- Uh1C should be 8.3
- Ah1E should be 8.7 max
- Ah1F/S (all nations) should be 9.3 and the US one needs its missing countermeasures.
- Japans tech tree Ah1S without Cms should be 9.0
- AH6M should be 9.7 sense it doesnt have CMs, or AAMs, and has a very limited weapons supply.
- Ah1W (all nations) should be 10.7 like all the other helos its similar to… infact many of them have better loadouts than this thing does like the Lynx, and Mi24s at a lower BR.
- Ah64Ds all nations need AGM-114Ls, i dont give A F about seeing through smoke or whatever gaijins dumb reason is for not adding them. its not fair that the US doesnt have buddy lazing, and doesnt have any FAF atgms when everyone else has fire and hide missiles.
+1
would definitely need APKWS improvements but those are needed anyway
imagine gaijin added the 19 rocket pods of HEAT APKWS then there might actualy be a reason to bring them because right now the SAP ones struggle to kill many AAs and the HE ones are even worse
btw gaijin doesnt even have the correct APKWS data… they made the rockets heavier than IRL which means they are like 100m/s slower than they should be…
see here for basic physics/data as well as me mocking them for small brain.
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yeah looking at bug reports for APKWS is just sad for how many have been ignored or accepted for years without being fixed
one of my fav helos, i wish it it could be added as either a premium or squadron (bc heli grind makes me wanna explode)
+∞
heli grind isnt too bad now that you can research with ground vehicles, the mod grind for them still sucks though
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Since we will have infantry soon, utilitiy helis would be really nice to ferry infantry around
AH1G for all nations should be like 7.3 cuz they are turbo trash.
Pardon? I do agree the AH-1G is single-handedly the one heli I’ve had the most pain flying, but 7.7 is the minimum RB BR for helps in the game, they could just go to 7.7 and still suck but not as bad.
Italian AB205 should honestly be like br 6.3 and it will STILL be terrible down there… its such a sad helicopter…
I take it back… 7.3 sounds ok.
Ah1W (all nations) should be 10.7 like all the other helos its similar to… infact many of them have better loadouts than this thing does like the Lynx, and Mi24s at a lower BR.
I do agree that 10.7 would be a sweet spot for them, considering 10.7 is a more fleshed out BR than 11.0 (which for most nations in RB only exists in the form of a few jets and very few tanks, if any).
AH6M should be 9.7 sense it doesnt have CMs, or AAMs, and has a very limited weapons supply.
AH-6M shouldn’t be 9.7? It has access to AGM-114Ks, if it got moved down in BR it would be to 10.0 minimum; 9.7 is a bit outlandish imho.
This would be interesting around 9.3 - 9.7 Br with the APKWS weapons system, if they get AT HEAT warhead and not the weak ones that are multipurpose or anti-infantry we already have in-game. Plus the warheads are small, so you need more than a couple of missiles to kill a tank.
it does have 114ks but it is by far the worst heli to grind mods for possibly in the game because they are a rank 4 mod and your only guided weapon before that is APKWS which is useless
also with only 4 114ks and pretty bad optics id argue it should be 10.0 max even more so because right after it in the tree is a heli with the same max load but better optics and 2 114ks stock
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honestly I could see this at like 11.0-11.3 if they add IR guided hydras for it (they exist and have been tested) and probably max br if they add those with HEAT warheads
Their warhead is very small, so they will struggle to kill vehicles if they don’t eliminate the entire crew or cause an ammo rack. CIRIT missiles on T129 are a good example of their performance and another important aspect is their limited steering compared to other ATGMs, they will struggle to follow agile vehicles and will lose track if they’re not launched in ideal conditions. Also the limited penetration (should be similar to 290mm like their unguided counterparts) will struggle to defeat the armor of most MBTs at top tier and you will need to perform salvo shots of several APKWS missiles to make them penetrate and aim for weak spots/thin armor places.
wait can it mount stingers? actually it cant but no one said it cant be fired out the door lol