Begleitpanzer 57 to 10.3 like the 2s38

I never compared Sprut M to Ariete, the user I replied to was the one doing so.

2S38 being labeled a SPAA would be a buff.
2S38 being 11.3 would require Begleit being 10.7 and HSTVL 12.3. Not my opinion/take.
2S38’s loading mechanism is entirely correct for the game features at this time; War Thunder does not feature double feed loading in-game for any system.
No overheating only impacts SPAA duties, and would change nothing about its anti-tank role.

As for TAM 2C:
Round: Sprut M: 666 vs 494mm of angled armor.
Mobility: TAM 2C.
Gun mechanics [stabilizer, traverse, etc]: TAM 2C.
Optics: Tied.
Physical size: TAM 2C.
Resistance to low-caliber weapons: TAM 2C.

M1128 is also 10.3 with M900, but there’s more context to weapon systems than the penetration.
I will not bring Sprut M into an 11.0 match if my goal is to carry to victory, but I will bring Sprut M over 2S38 cause 2S38 is far worse.

Cool attempted defense of 2S38 on your part though.

That would help every other autocannon that shouldn’t overheat though, like PUMAs.

PUMA would benefit in the anti-air role without overheating as well.

However, in the anti-tank role where there are usually less shots needed to commit take downs of enemy forces… not as helpful.
Granted, there are many that believe more shots down range helps.
While I myself don’t ascribe to that belief, I understand their perspective and their desires.

I’m a frequent user of PUMAs peashooter and the situation of my gun overheating in crucial moments is pretty common. The amount of shots soviet ERA can just eat can’t be discribed in civil language. And with how unaccurate this gun is (for some reason) - trying to pixel snipe someone in the distance takes a lot of boolets as well.

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is this for air rb or grb

This doesn’t explain anything.

No, I don’t

I’m literally just asking you for clarification, learn some respect.

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btr 82 at is fine in 9.0 with 1200mm pen missile , therma, stabilized gun, apds, reacon drone in donwtier play vs ww2 tanks…

you are desсribing the m3 bradley bar the 1200mm pen

wt… have the m3 bradley?

image
sure looks like one to me
has the thermals, stabilized gun, apds and a recon drone

430 mm pen missile and have crew in turret + its slow and no spall liner

Still smashes 7.3 tanks when it sees em.

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…its also 8.3

no spall liners in front

I really like how the PUMAs barrel in supporting structure with large cooling ribs overheats and start loosing accuracy after a few rounds.

Meanwhile Gaijins 2A42 with simple barrel 50% higher RPM can shoot indefinitely with minor accuracy loss.
True marvel od soviet engineering.

https://www.military.com/video/bmp-2-live-fire-close

No dispersion at all …

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Weakest russian Laser vs Strongest NATO 30mm
(We’ll never see good dispersion on a nato autocannon)

Like what I mentioned. You are a troll or just have issues with reading comprehension.
People like you, Alvis Visla and other “I don’t know what are you talking about, the game is balanced” people can go play 10.3 USSR forever in a separate server with all the china mains, I’ll vote for that.

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You can’t call people trolls just because they disagree with your take. If it’s so obvious just tell us which vehicles are problematic.

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the ones I mentioned multiple times. I said why I think you are a troll and it’s definitely not bcs you disagree with me.

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Ok? Can you direct me to where you said it? I am not antagonizing you so I don’t know why you feel the need to attack me.

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Want to add. 2S38 can switch between shells if the shell was already loaded in the mechanism in certain order, but it takes AT least 4 shots before you go from the mechanical “hand” to the shell in the belt, as it shows in the model.
Edit: not to mention the time for the autoloader to spin and take a different shell in the mechanism like in T-72.

BTR-82 is faster, has safe angles and tows are shit.