Baz Meshupar (AN/APG-63 PSP) radar missing TWS

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Yet another Baz Meshupar radar complaint, but this time more credible evidence has been found. Hopefully the game staff will take a look at this and forward to the devs.

TLDR; of the Baz Meshupar radar issue: The Baz M. has a different radar when compared to the F-15C MSIP II and the F-15(J)M which both have the AN/APG-63V(1) with Track While Scan (TWS). The AN/APG-63 PSP on the Baz M. lacks TWS and HMD for radar, making it essentially a worse version of the regular F-15C. There have been many bug reports/complaints about this issue but none of them have had “enough information” in Gaijin’s terms to be fixed.

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/QXz6Gyt7TzIq

PLEASE UPVOTE THE REPORT. THE MESHUPAR DESERVES TO HAVE TWS.

As a note this is not my own bug report, a friend of mine created it and this post is meant to raise awareness so the game staff will take a look at it sooner.

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i honestly hope they fix this, meshupar is on a bad spot right now, no tws really hurts at 13.7

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https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/ieYQfShbvZss

If you guys upvote this one i made too for the Meshupar getting the GBU-15(V)2/B that would be cool.

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Don’t forget to upload the F-15 Armaments handbook showing it has compatibility with IR guided bombs. And the manual specifies it functions for EO/IR engagements.

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Yeah no TWS and the lack of having radar HMD is very disadvantageous.

The Baz M. radar was identical to the MSIP II and the J(M) on the dev server but Gaijin changed the radar specs post-update to the PSP.

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It also having the PSP would give it the ability to have a software update to link the DASH HMD to the radar, but clearly we have to clue what we are talking about. I’ve thought about trying to find an ex Meshupar Pilot and seeing what i could ask him lol.

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If you do find a Meshupar pilot the information would have to be in-writing as Gaijin afaik only accepts written (as in a manual/book) information to be reliable.

Here’s the requirements according to the bug report site:

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yaaaaaaay not a bug because “It is intended that F-15A radar does not have TWS mode.” despite the MANUFACTURES stating PSP has TWS capabilities.

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So… pretty much what they said is “Yea yall do have proof, but nah, we won’t give it TWS”

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Basically, that quote is from the devs. Literally just “yeah you got proof but we dont really feel like it.”

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Ya my missles dont hit. My f15a is better…

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The Israeli F-15C and F-16C/D in War Thunder are consistently portrayed as being inferior to their US versions, lacking features such as superior engines, TWS radar, and the ability to carry AIM-120A missiles, instead being limited to DERBY. However, in reality, the aircraft sold to Israel were typically customised and enhanced versions. Why does Gaijin choose to deliberately downgrade or misrepresent these aircraft?

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I didn’t even bother grinding the Baz Meshupar, no TWS, DL or HMD is an absolute joke

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Like especially with the Meshupar, proof from Hughes that it has TWS mode, but that benifits Israel so it doesnt get it.

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Baz Meshupar not only got its TWS now, but also its HMD and DL channels, YIPEEEEEE

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We are so Barak

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Actually F-15C Baz Meshupar fitted AN/APG-63 PSP radar like USAF F-15C 80’s. But I’m very surprised gajin about this

However, in the future F-15I Ra’am BVR missile and close air support better Baz Meshupar because AN/APG-70i radar with 8 datalink, LANTIRN AN/AAQ-14 Sharpshooter targeting pod & AN/AAQ- 13 Pathfinder pod, Paveway II LGB, JDAM and domestic israel precision-guided munition

F-16C Block 40 Barak II in game or F-16C/D Block 30 Barak I

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I prefer the F-16D Block 40 Barak II tbh

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It’s unbelievable that Gaijin will really make changes in favour of Israel. Not long ago, they were still working on the report that BAZ has TWS/HMD Not a bug.

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For me, I might hope Python 4 instead 2x AIM-9L & 6x AIM-9L. In Q3 2025 or Q1 2025 6x AIM-9M replace with Python 5, increase max BR to 14.3 and removed Derby from F-16D Block 40 Barak II

In fact F-15C Baz Meshupar fitted AN/APG-63 PSP radar like USAF F-15C MSIP II in 80’s

Radar AN/APG-63 I-Baz it’s might not true