So there are changes after all to simulator battle ratings. But implemented “through the back door” without a chance to comment, nice one! Some of the changes are totally random. Like the Kfir Canard 11.0 to 11.3. Just why? The Kfir C.2 will now be at the same BR! It has also two missiles, but very good all aspect ones. And it has a RWR with a threat library! The Canard is a Mirage 5 with a HUD and asignificantly more powerful engine, otherwise it’s the same and their BR difference should be two steps. This is totally random change with no logic whatsoever behind.
Then the Premium AMX. It has a flawed flight model with missiles that are no better overall than the tech tree version. They should be both be at 9.7 and with a fixed flight model maybe 10.0. The BR has apparently been decided by the missile values in the stat card, even though in the game it’s just a sidegrade. I was going to comment on this one when I get home from work, but the thread wasn’t even opened for comments. This would’ve surely be supported. Why do you need to do things this way?
Awful backhanded move Gaijin. plenty of bad changes there that no one asked for
Mig23’s, Mig 21’s, F-4E’s & J37D should NOT be lowered. they perform comparable to all their peers. Mig 23s going down in particular is laughable. the r24/23 missiles with mti mode is still very strong and the planes are fine at their BRs.
Sims biggest issue is having planes fill the BR brackets. 12.0 already has no red side planes and now with mig23s going down, 11.7 also loses the main red side AF.
Gaijin, you cant use your magic statistics in sim so listen to the players of this mode, theres not many of us
The Lazur is going down to 11.0 from 11.3 with 6x all-aspect missiles, meanwhile the J-7D must be getting flown by some very good pilots because with its 4x rear-aspects its going to 11.3 from 11.0. And right after a sale, of course.
The J-8B, which lacks a pulse-doppler radar or all aspect IRAAMS is going to 11.7, while the MLD the best god d*mn jet in its bracket next to the F1C is going to 11.3, and it has 4x all-aspect AAMS, 2x SARHs paired with MTI, HUD radar tracking and a better RWR. That’s ridiculous.
Both the F1C and MiG-23MLD & other variants are excessively competitive against their peers, because they are so d*mn fast, have good missiles, and have their MTI radars with the HUD display that shows you exactly where they are, and can hone in quickly giving you little opportunity to react.
Not to mention that the most competitive jet at 10.3 is now getting lowered to 10.0 and gets to reign supreme over the rest of the bracket even more, the F-8U.
They really just snuck all this garbage in there without giving us an opportunity to address it. I’m not happy at all. I’ve spent probably $2000 on this game over its lifetime, I regret to admit, and I’ve just become sick of Air RB and Ground RB for the claustrophobic maps and short match times. I’ve recently delved into EC Air Sim and enjoyed it a great deal, and it has been almost all that I have played.
I’ve played many different jets now in the 9.7 to 12.3 and have observed their relative strengths and have my own opinions on where I think they should be, and I’m greatly disappointed that I can’t offer these experiences towards the improvement of the game.
Depressing points guys. They just ruined sim completely, absolutely the worst thing is indeed the matchup issue which I didn’t even think of. The only “fun” thing in the future will be flyig NOE in the AMX and hunt MiG-23’s and MiG-21’s. Over half of the matchups I usually play are gone. And this doesn’t solve the MF1 issue, as the MiG-23MLD/ML guys are forced to play in the 11.7 lobbies anyway or not play at all.
Any change this could be cancelled and thought over? If you don’t want to receive input, then just cancel the changes pls.
R60/M have a max range of about 2km and will go after every flare, most of your missile kills are going to be on people not paying attention, kinda hard to do with that kind of range. J7D on the other hand has an amazing time killing mouth breathers because it can snipe people.
MTI mode only works in certain circumstances you can’t always be in, I know you dont have to hold a lock and only need to illuminate after launch but still, also the FM nerf made it horrible to even try to dogfight anything but a phantom strapped with bombs.
I do agree it might be hasty to throw these down, but the F14’s should have been moved up a long time ago, so we could actually see how 11.7 stuff performs when not having to fight them every single fucking game. The WR/KD on 11.7 stuff suffered greatly from the F14.
It’s also funny to watch how every thread prior to this announcement about F14 being OP was just filled with people saying its a skill issue etc. and now that its official it was OP via gaijin moving it up every thread is just people telling those crying about it they were wrong. It’s like everyone got new programming overnight.
Hm, for myself I see the BR reduction of the JA-37D as potentially problematic for my F-5E FCU, and that many Phantoms, Floggers and Fishbeds get down one notch will make flying the A-10’s more dangerous, I fear.
Apart from that I see little that bothers me personally…
It will force you to a play style where you need to constantly fly below 60 m that way you can be competitive. Also there will not be populated lobbies. After these bizarre changes, at a minimum, there should always be a everyone against everyone lobby available.
I agree that both AMX should be at 11.0 as long as the flight model is fixed (Why should it be the hardest jet to fly in WT, the plane even had a partial Fly By Wire!?) The early Sea Harrier is at 10.7 and it has the same level of armament and is better in every other way except for the worse RWR.
Thx, but the replacement is already scheduled for pickup after work. Should be able to get back online - so check your six tonite, ladies and gentlemen! = )
Well… Sea Harrier FRS1 moving was a typo. So FRS1 and AMX are Both are considered equal in performance to the Mig-23MLD. So I guess I wont be playing the 11.3 bracket for the next few months. 10.7 or 12.0 only for a while yet.
I don’t understand the A5C moving up. It has 2 decent missiles, sure, but for A2A that’s all it really has going for it other than stalling out your enemy.
Why would 11.7 have to fight F-14 all the time in EC? Just don’t join the 12.7 lobbies, 12.3 lobbies don’t even exist, so the F-14s are effectively all at 12.7 already.
Thank You Gaijin for not moving the Kfir Canard to 11.3! But if that was also a typo, then the guy who filled the spreadsheet should get a grip. It was full of typos. Thank god I didn’t buy the J-7D from the weekend sale. I even logged into PayPal but cancelled in the last moment.