Battle Rating changes for January 2024 (post feedback)

The 2S38 compensates for it’s slightly worse chassis with other qualities such as 3x faster fire rate (0.5s vs 1.5s), much higher ammunition capacity (148 vs 26), HE-VT, IRST and higher quality thermals.

Also, the 2S38 does not have a loud gas turbine engine that makes you audible from across the map.

Even then I wouldn’t go so far as to say the 2S38 has the “worse” chassis. It is larger yes, and technically has less armor, but that works to it’s advantage. It spalls very little, especially side shots, which combined with the amount of “void space” inside the vehicle makes it surprisingly survivable. Compared to HSTV-L which is very cramped, meaning any penetration is bound to take out the crew or hit ammunition/fuel.

The upper front plate is extremely angled and can auto ricochet most rounds that land there, it is conveniently placed at the height which most people aim for reflexively. It’s turret is also entirely unmanned, whereas the HSTV-L only has a low profile turret.

In their current state I still believe the two are more similar than expressed by their BRs. I vehemently believe the 2S38 should go up. I’m not proposing that the HSTV-L goes down however, rather buffed to be on par with historical data. If it got HE-VT, aircraft tracking, penetration similar to M774, 1s reload rate, I would even be content with a BR increase. As it is now however, it is rather sad at 11.3.

What is the reasoning for maintaining the A6M5 ko change to 5.3?

Zeroes are already overtiered, stop punishing players for the incompetence of their opponents.

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Some of your suggestions are absolutely insane and prove you didn’t play many of the vehicles you’re expecting to change.

One quick example, you suggest WZ1001 and ZTZ96A to 12.0… but VT-4A1 to 12.3… I don’t know how to put into words how knowledgeable you must be on the Chinese tech tree.

There’s a few points I agree with you, but after checking your profile, I think it’s better to avoid suggesting changes for vehicles you didn’t even used unless they’re obvious.

That T95 revert is funny to me somehow:) Was it too slow to make to 7.3 in time?:P

The F-5E is not as dominant as people think, I personally have a 49% WR after 90 battles and a KD of 1.95 (be aware that AI air targets are counted towards total air kills, without them it would probably be closer to 1.5), US teams at that bracket are laughable, 70% of your teammates are going for bases and will die to the first missile they see. I bought the F-5E exactly a month ago, if the teams get better, then maybe increase the BR, but I wouldn’t say it’s dominating the entire BR bracket)

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Another round of balance changes, another round of senseless nerfs.

T20 should be at 6.0. APCR does not justify 6.3. Ditch the APCR round and keep it at 6.0.

Why is the A6M5 going up again? And the J2M’s and J6K too? Those planes have already been up-tiered a lot, why are you making them even worse? You really want people in J6K’s to fight against jets?

Why is A-36 going down? It’s incredibly strong on that BR, to the point people use it as a fighter more so than an attacker. It should go up, not down.

And France is getting nerfed again. Those vehicles are already up-tiered as they are, they shouldn’t go any further up.

“We’re still going ahead with these as the previous increase in reload speed has significantly bettered their efficiency figures, where these French tanks are 60-70% above the average at their rank”

This is the problem. You need to STOP using efficiency as a measure for balancing vehicles, it’s incredibly misleading. At this point you could genuinely balance vehicles based off popularity (popular vehicles get nerfed, unpopular vehicles get buffed, etc.) and it would honestly be better than what you are doing now.

Stop balancing vehicles around their win/loss ratio.

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I know the difference and so much was written by forum members and just plain ignored. DCA moving to 5 and leaving the huge gap it was created to fill in the first place? Not even an acknowledgement of that from anybody.

How about you plain just stop moving BR anyway? if BR changes are so important and correct then why do you undo them a few months or years later? The stuff you just did you will probably undo next update. Just tired of Gaijin destroying line ups for no real reason,

I dont see that is hard to understand.

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"The Gripen A’s built-in armament consisted of a single Mauser BK 27 27-millimeter cannon, housed in a fairing on the aircraft’s belly, offset to left to the rear of the engine intake. Given the aircraft’s relatively small size, it generally carried guided weapons to ensure maximum combat effectiveness. Possible external stores included:

  • Air-to-air missiles (AAM). The primary AAM was the Raytheon AIM-120 AMRAAM; the Gripen’s PS-05A radar could guide four of these weapons simultaneously. Swedish AMRAAMs had minor modifications to fit Swedish specifications. Other possible AAM stores included the French Matra Mica; the British Aerospace Sky Flash, built in Sweden as the “Rb-71”; and the Anglo-French MBDA ramjet-powered Meteor BVRAAM or German BGT IRIS-T AAM – IRIS-T being a short-range heat-seeking AAM with “off-boresight” capability. The Flygvapnet would obtain the IRIS-T to replace Swedish-built Sidewinder AAMs, along with the Cobra helmet-mounted sight required by the IRIS-T; the Meteor would follow, being introduced to service in 2016."

But it’s ok to be wrong about something bro :)

Lmao no char is still going to 8.0 for some dumb reason

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Wow these changes still look awful thanks for this

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Those are reload buffs mate

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Is there any chance that the type-16(fps) will receive the type-93 shell and move up to 9.7?

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Ah, my bad.
They’re still trash vehicles regardless.

One of the highlights for me. Thank you!

I, however, would insist to further decompress the ground BRs by expanding their range, as many others have already pointed out.

Arietes are not equivalents to Strv 122s; M1A1 HC is not equivalent to Leopard 2A7V, and IPM1 shouldn’t go into battle against T-80BVMs and T-90Ms.

Top tier decompression via BR range expansion should also, finally, decompress the mid tiers. In the past year, compression has done nothing but to move from one BR bracket to another. We need to expand the BRs so that we may finally decompress ALL the BRs without compressing any others in exchange!

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Replacing one letter is still possible.

And it’s not going to happen,… you should know it ^^"

I didnt even think 2S25M can use 3BM60 oh wow.
This thing is so unpopular anyway.
Glad to see Strela moving up, but I think it should get its sensors.
I believe more french tanks should be removed from the list.

New plane for 500k research points for HMD amd Amraam?

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So do you also think they should lower the T-80BVM to 11.3 because soviet teams are performing bad right now?

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Yes

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