And?
Should be historically accurate to IRL. It’s not.
(Especially the BOL nerfs which have affected more than just the Gripen)
Not my fault the US and USSR can’t build equal aircraft.
Just wait till typhoon and Rafale. Though they are going to be heavily, artificially nerfed as well.
Yet I assume that if they were to add for example the F-22 together with the Eurofighter you wpuld be the first to complain about it not being fair.
The brain wiring of single nation mains continues to be interesting.
And I’m sure if they added the F22, US mains would still complain about not having HMD
Besides, if that happened, US mains would complain about ASRAAM and Meteor.
Eh I haven’t seen US mains complain about not getting HMD here, I have only seen people state it as a possible reason for the F-15A being 12.3.
The only one I mostly see complain here at the moment is you.
99% of US mains are complaining about the lack of HMD on the F15 and it being the primary reason for it being 12.3 and not 12.7. it should 100% be 12.7 though. 0 reason for it to be 12.3.
I mean, that could be applied to… every nation pretty much. The only ones I haven’t seen complain are Italians, who just… I assume accepted their fate when the F-104s came out.
It just so happens that Brits feel (quite reasonably) hard done by, having to choose between a Brick, an even shorter ranged Brick, and a Harrier until this patch.
On balance Morvran probably would. Then again so would every British, Italian and German Air main worth their salt. Because they just aren’t comparable. A quick glance over their basic characteristics would tell you that.
Then again, no doubt everyone would either be horrified or delighted at the idea of a missile with a NEZ of around 60 km. And ASRAAM having perhaps the longest range of Western IR missiles and being virtually unflarable.
Funny old thing, the Europeans can turn out a good aircraft when they bother their arses every now and then…
Yep, heck, F22 is only better past about 50km. Within that area, they are equal (PIRATE on the RAF typhoons can probably detect and thus guided ASRAAM onto an F22 at that range) and within WVR (about 20km) Typhoon would win most of the time. So yeah, I’ll take the typhoon FGR4 and fight the F22 all day long.
(Also the ECM on the Typhoon is good enough to prevent F22 getting a lock until about 50 or so KM)
Especially as I can also be firing off 60km range Brimstones at ground targets at the same time.
That has been a thing before all these added. Just take a look at German /Japanese WW2 jet aircraft, some of which only had a model existing, some wasnt even a jet IRL, some was only paper.
We have trancendented the man-god barrier and learnt enough skill to make sure that the vehicles are merely means to demonstrate knowledge and skill.
Tis but a minor setback.
You’re comparing a vehicle that has an overall good package in every regard with a vehicle that has middling mobility, iffy armor, below average gun handling, terrible reload for its BR and lacks even smoke charges for secondary survivability; all that to excell in pen and post-pen damage at a BR where most tanks have no issue with penetrating armor or killing/crippling vehicles with one shot with proper aim.
It will still be a decent vehicle, maybe even pretty good, but nowhere near “really strong”. It doesn’t fit the meta well enough to be really strong.
Typical American. Can’t actually make a rational argument, has to use insults. And thus defeats his own argument instantly. Enjoy your free hand outs. I am looking forward to the days of the Typhoon. The complaints when that gets added is going to be glorious
Only when every nation has access to the F15A will people realize that 12.3 is fair for the F15 compared to the current 12.7.
Is the lack of HDM a weakness of the F15? Yes, but it’s not its only weakness, the absence of HMD is just one of many weaknesses of the F15 listed, the fundamental reason being the inability to replace the F15’s 4 AIM7 missiles.
It’s got better mobility than everything in the T-72 line except for the T-72B3, lol.
Armor is on par with T-90A, and the Obj 292 only becomes a glass cannon (which is what it should be) when facing a team with majority 11.3 rounds.
It’s doing more than enough damage in trade for reload.
Oh well? Doesn’t negate all the things going for it.
It should go to 11.3 to have a niche, then, since it will actually be a glass cannon there.
Being ‘not meta’ does not mean it shouldn’t go up in BR. You can just let a 11.3 tank be at 10.0 just because it’s not a Stalinium go-kart like the T-80BVM.
Ah yes I am an american main with 5 nations at top tier ground lol. On top of that I do better in my Merkava Mk.4s than you in your challenger 2. While the Mk.4s is arguably a worse tank.
I only really use my US air tree for CAS and CAP so you likely won’t see me in ARB that much anyway.
So you’ve got no argument to counter me?
Is it really seal-clubbing if it’s at top tier?
F15 can get into down tiers with 11.3 where its equals don’t as they are at 12.7
Seal-clubbing is when you’re an experienced player taking advantage of inexperienced players- i.e. a level 100 playing at low tiers where they will face level 5s.
At best, from your position, it’s just under-BR’d. From my perspective, it’s just the US realistically having the best jet.
what is 11.3 full of
By your definition everything is seal clubbing, lol. The existence of premiums at a high BR does not make it “seal clubbing.” When you buy into top-tier you forfeit the theoretical benefit of getting to play with primarily new players. New players playing reserve vehicles can have a reasonable expectation that most players are not level 100s.
